On Aug 19, 2006, at 2:31 PM, Lukas Barton wrote:
> Stefan Tilkov wrote:
>> +1. In fact, I don't think there has ever been a "good" UML tool -  
>> in the sense of "good for automated software development".
> We could start DML vs DSL debate ;-)

Not much of a difference to me -- DML graphical, DSL textual,  
otherwise similar enough so it doesn't matter.

> Do you agree that: "Proprietary tools which worked mostly were DSL."?
>

No. In my personal experience, most model-driven projects, SOA or  
not, were driven from UML models, more or less heavily customized via  
UML profiles.

>> A UML profile is a poor man's metamodel, so this could  
>> conceptually be used with MOF or EMF, too. The problem is that one  
>> has to define what the exact SOA metamodel is :-)
> But there is no standardised profile for SOA.
> OMG started SOA SIG (http://soa.omg.org/) only few month ago. Can  
> you guess whether this group goals could be successful? (eg. create  
> SOA metamodel, ...).
> May be I overestimate necessity of standards. But without standard  
> you get a mess (eg. not cooperating tools...).
>

Even with a custom UML profile, the commonality is large enough for  
people to understand your models because UML is so widespread. If  
only the tools sucked less ...

Stefan
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Stefan Tilkov, http://www.innoq.com/blog/st/









 
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