Re: [service-orientated-architecture] SOA education vendor

[Ron Schmelzer]

For those that are looking for vendor-neutral training and SOA education that's more than just technology-focused and focused on best practices, architectural methodologies, organizational change and alignment, and SOA implementation roadmap, I'd encourage you to look at what ZapThink has to offer. We have been doing this sort of vendor-neutral training for almost six years now, with much to show for it. While our training costs money, you get what you pay for. Vendors might offer "free" SOA training, but they are hoping you will become customers of their products in exchange. There really is no such thing as a free lunch. If you want high-quality, low-pitch training, give us a shout, and let us know if you want some sample outlines and agendas to go with it. Best, Ron Best, Ron Eric Newcomer wrote: IONA does offer SOA training based on our 10-year experience with SOA based on CORBA and more recently on Web services.   http://www.iona.com/info/services/ps/training/training_by_technology.htm#web_services   I helped create and review the course materials - it's all vendor and technology independent generic industry material, similar to what's in my two Web services books.   Eric ----- Original Message ---- From: Steve Jones <jones.steveg@gmail.com> To: service-orientated-architecture@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 6:09:14 PM Subject: Re: [service-orientated-architecture] SOA education vendor On the basis that a decent trainer needs to have experience the technologies and solutions at first hand and know the war stories, then from my experience so far I've not seen much decent SOA training being offered outside of conferences.  Where I've seen SOA training and coaching done relatively well is in company link ups and using specialist SOA consultants from SIs (caveat I do work for an SI).   To get SOA working you need war stories as much as you need best practices. You also need to be clear what you want out of such training, if its an overview on SOA then you are possibly almost better off contacting one of your key vendors or SI partners and asking them to do this as an "awareness" exercise as part of the relationship.  If its because you want to start rolling SOA out then you will need something pretty bespoke to the challenges that you face. Steve On 30/08/06, Jerry Zhu <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com> wrote: Any recommendation on a SOA education vendor? We are looking for candidates for an onsite training at a Fortune 500 company in US. The audience includes business/system analysts, archiectes, designers, and managers. We need to have the list of candidates by the end of tomorrow (Thursday) Thanks Jerry ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail. yahoo.com __________ NOD32 1.1734 (20060831) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com -- _____________________________________________________________ Ronald Schmelzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Senior Analyst ZapThink LLC Direct: 781-577-2779 / Main: 781-207-0203 __._,_.___ SPONSORED LINKS Computer software program Computer software spy Computer job Database software Discount computer software YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS  Visit your group "service-orientated-architecture" on the web.    To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]    Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___