On 12/6/06, Stefan Tilkov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Dec 6, 2006, at 8:13 PM, Gervas Douglas wrote:
>
> > "The core tenet of SOA is loose coupling within Web services and
> > without," Kassem said. "In Web services, our [J2EE 1.4] initial foray
> > was very RPC-centric. That dramatically shifted with JAX-WS 2.0, it
> > was an important programming model shift. It enables us to build more
> > loosely coupled Web services that will scale very well for the Web.
> > [It] was a significant SOA-centric initiative.
>
> Bullshit. JAX-WS is as RPC-centric as the JAX-RPC/JAXM combination.

Yup.  I remember nearly gagging on my lunch when I saw this;

http://weblogs.java.net/blog/kohlert/archive/2006/01/publishing_a_re.html

It seems to be a case of looking at "REST support" as just a checkbox
on a feature list, rather than first understanding how it's different
and then designing a framework accordingly (which, if you do it right,
requires rearchitecting the lower level SOAP/WS stuff).  Axis 2.0
suffers from the same problem, although the code I've seen for it
isn't quite as bad as what's shown there.

Mark.

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