<<How important is the SOA Reference Model that OASIS now offers as a
standard definition of the service-oriented approach?
James Bryce Clark: One of our milestones for 2006 was that the SOA
Reference Model committee did issue a standard. It's proving to be a
very useful and appreciated piece of work. But let me tell you what it
is not. It is not an architecture. It is also not a list of standards.
There's a tremendous temptation to say SOA is the following six tools
or the following four standards used together. You can sell a lot of
software by saying that. The problem is it's not true.

So what is it?
Clark: Service orientation is a methodology. It's a way of organizing
information. An enterprise service orientation most commonly expresses
itself as bullet points in an RFP (request for proposal). What you're
really doing when you decide to go down the path of service
orientation is you are making a decision about the requirements and
constraints that you will impose on all the information that you want
to expose to interoperate with other people. There are a lot of ways
to do it. There are a lot of different methodologies. There are a lot
of different modes of expression. There are many different software
choices. It is not a bunch of standards or a vendor's product. It's a
decision that you want everything you're doing to run a certain way.
Then it constrains your choice of methods and vendors and apps and
sometimes trading partners.

Is it a case where SOA is not always what people think it is?
Clark: One of the interesting challenges for our world has been to
help people understand what tasks they face and what pieces are likely
to be on the playing board in moving toward service orientation and
Web services. It's not about XML. We've kind of moved from EDI to XML
in our world now but some day we'll be doing something other than XML.
But service orientation reaches across all that and is not dependent
on any of them. The idea is that you're going to take your product
computation functions and express a node or end point for them that is
available to the world, described in a certain way and takes calls and
other functions so it can be reused, even by people who don't know
you. That's a fundamental architectural concept and a lot of
constraint and opportunities follow from it.

How did the reference model project get started at OASIS?
Clark: The most interesting thing about the SOA Reference Model is
that it got started because a bunch of people who had been working in
XML, Web services and other SOA methods were frustrated with the
attempt to define service orientation. It actually started as a
project to name a set of standards. They thought maybe we can explain
it to people in terms of layers. You have to have a registry layer, a
messaging layer, a content layer. There was some effort to go down
that road. What they learned quickly was that in order to say any of
those things validly you had to grasp more fundamental concepts like
what is a service? What is a phenomenon properly understood as a
service, not an attribute or a feature of a service? What does it mean
to have a description of a service abstractly? What can we conclude
from a definition of a service, what do you have to do to have a
definition? There were some basic concepts that really needed some
fleshing out before you could create any architecture. So the SOA
Reference Model was an attempt to come up with a working consensus
definition of those basic building blocks on an abstract level, which
then could be taken to architectures, to more than one architecture.
Take a look at the model. It's great work. A lot of people who are out
there building these things seem very happy with the concepts. It
seems to be helpful in organizing their own architectural plans.

Is there a next step in building on the reference model?
Clark: Yes. Now the SOA-RM technical committee is going on to a second
phase. The SOA-RA subcommittee is continuing to develop a SOA
reference architecture (SOA-RA) based on the SOA-RM specification.

What will the reference architecture encompass?
Clark: The reference model, which is the one that has been issued, was
attempting to answer the question what is an SOA. What are the pieces?
How would you know one when you see it in the wild? It helps people
think about whether they want one or not. Once you've got past that
question, you've got a second question. What do you do with one and
how should you build it once you've decided you do want one. How do
you build it? How do you use it? How do you own it? That's a different
set of questions. The reference architecture technical committee
members are taking that same set of elements. There is a service.
There is a description. There are contracts and policies. They will
take each of those basic shapes of the "tinker toy" and describe in
more detail what can populate each of those pieces. What are the
requirements? If you're going to have a service description, what do
you need? Undoubtedly, there will be a listing of some possibilities
as examples. But they are still not trying to create a normative
command that you must use this, that or the other thing.

So will this then be more in the form of guidelines rather than rules?
Clark: Yes, because take for example service description. There are
lots of services out there and a lot of them are described by WSDL,
which is designed for that purpose. The functional question is, if
you're going to have a service description what are the things that it
must do? Then you can use WSDL to interrogate it against those
requirements.

Will the OASIS SOA Adoption Blueprints play any role in the
development of the reference architecture?
Clark: As you may know, SOA Blueprints is an ongoing technical
committee working to describe models of business processes that can be
instances of SOA. For example, I want to run an auction site. I want
to automate my CRM. The SOA Blueprints project is creating examples of
instances that are open and do not embed a lot of competitive
intelligence. One of the problems is many of the automations of
business processes embed an awful lot of competitive advantage. For
example, Boeing and Lockheed, both of which are very into e-commerce,
do not want to share their methods with each other because it has all
their business rules baked into it and they're not keen to give that
to each other. So the SOA Blueprints technical committee is helping to
make things generic, so they define in an open space some basic
processes. Their output is not in the form of XML specs. They are
instances of how you might accomplish a particular goal.

I would expect the reference architecture will eventually be a set of
criteria that would inform collections of examples, like SOA
Blueprints. For the matter, any enterprise or government that wanted
to show you what it did with Web services might well say, "Now that
we've got some things that we've bootlegged together, we're going to
take the RA model and hold it up and see if things are working the way
we think they are." Then those might become additional instances, or
good examples. But SOA Blueprints and the RA are related at an
abstract level. They don't feed directly into each other.

How will RA differ from the WS-I basic profile?
Clark: The WS-I people set out to solve the following problem:
assuming you want to use WSDL, UDDI and SOAP, how do you set all the
settings on those things so all of the vendors will make sure they
support those standards? They're paving a clear path for us, saying
we're all going to agree on this, so as to remove the practical
problem for some poor guy who just bought middleware and is trying to
figure out how to set the switches. That's what the profile is. So the
WS-I basic profile will be an example of a set standards that you can
hold up to the functional requirements of the reference model and the
reference architecture. They don't rely on each other. The WS-I model
will tell you if you are buying turnkey products from one of the major
middleware providers, then you know there are one set of settings that
will work for everybody. The reference architecture will tell you what
things we need to make sure are done in our architecture and in our
software. How do we make sure each of our vendors are fulfilling our
needs and whether we are missing any pieces?

When are we likely to see a first draft of the reference architecture?
Clark: They expect to be done within 2007.

We've talked about defining SOA and moving on to a reference
architecture, can you sum up where things stand now at OASIS?
Clark: We benefit tremendously from the fact that our members are
willing to take extra time to share their models and contribute their
information and collectively advise the world on the best ways to do
these things, and what they've learned so far. Standardization is an
area where folks who are in competition come together to make
something that's better for everybody. The thing that's more important
to understand about SOA in the standards world is that the privileged
information of standardization is reality. We can come up with models
until our eyes are crossed. But what is really important is what
people are doing out there. Where have implementers encountered
problems? When vendors try to build something and they can't make it
the way our idealistic model describes because there is a practical
problem, that's important information. It happens sometimes when an
implementer who is creating their own enterprise architecture installs
all the stuff their consultant or provider told them to install and it
doesn't meet their need because their business needs weren't really
contemplated by the vendor's plan. That's really important
information. So these aren't static issues and dead conversations.
They are models that are continually refreshed by more feedback from
the implementation world. Our best work comes when we send out pretty
good descriptions that are then critiqued and made better when people
come and tell us how the world really works.

We'll hear from the folks at some of the large retailers and some of
the large e-commerce companies and manufacturers with big supply
chains. They will come back to us and say: "This is really helpful and
I learned a couple things, but you have this part wrong as we found
out when we were orchestrating the supply chain of 24,000 suppliers of
car parts." So this is not an issue we resolve and then we're done.
It's a collective body of knowledge that grows over time. In
standardization, we're seeing more and more releases, more and more
uses of wikis and discussion lists for ongoing conversations. It's
living information. We are at the early stage of the experience of
enterprises with service orientation, which means we'll know a lot
more in a year than we know now.>>

You can read this at:

<http://searchwebservices.techtarget.com/qna/0,289202,sid26_gci1237413,00.html?track=NL-110&ad=575808&asrc=EM_NLN_880902&uid=5532089>

Gervas


Reply via email to