Jerry

> It is the business people (with the help of business
> analyst) to show Systems analysts (a kind of IT
> people) their business architecture (technology
> independent models). 

OK, but I think the following is often the case:

1. A model is required to make progress.
2. Party X should be the owners and creators of the model, as it addresses 
their world and concerns
3. Party X does not have the resources and/or competence to create the required 
model.

In this situation, Part X will delegate (or outsource) the creation of their 
model to Party Y. It is then incumbent on Party Y to obtain agreement on the 
model from Party X. To do this, Party Y must render the model into a form that 
Party X will understand.

Rgds
Ashley

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