I agree with you on this one, Anne. Unfortunately, with the HP acquisition of Mercury, it really points toward a management platform solution making life difficult for the WSM vendors that don't have their own registry / repository. They are the ones with the most to lose if policy standards aren't established. BEA, Oracle, and Tibco can still get by with an OEM'd product, as they really don't compete in the management space (for now). Once the line starts to blur between ESM (enterprise systems management) and BAM (business activity management), the lines of competition may change yet again.

-tb

On Feb 8, 2007, at 7:49 AM, Anne Thomas Manes wrote:

Hence the need for really good search facilities in the repository.

One thing I predict in the market landscape report is convergence with SDLC/IT management systems. Traditionally, a registry has been supplied as part of the application platform, but I think that's the wrong perspective to take. A registry and/or repository should not be tightly associated with a single platform -- your goal is to get everyone in the company to use it to enable collaboration regardless of the platform they use to build systems. Repository supports development, and then also plays an important role in change control. Registry's role comes into play at the point you stage a service from development into production, during the configuration and provisioning processes. I think both registry and repository should be integrated with the CMDB, but neither should use a directory as their data store.

Anne

On 2/8/07, Steve Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
The bit I'm not sure about in the registry/repository space is how people will find things. Having a "central" repository or even a federation sounds nice architecturally but the key is how will people discover things and understand what is supported and by whom. I've seen some companies create Repository administration or librarian roles and rapidly these pieces become ignored and more adhoc collaboration goes on.

Having control is a great thing, but the goal should be to get people to find stuff first, then worry about control second, all too often I've seen similar exercises fail because people put the control hat on and decide that the easiest thing is if no-one finds anything useful.

On 07/02/07, Todd Biske < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
One thing that I've blogged about is whether or not the whole registry/repository arena will bloom (?) into the broader area of metadata management, which would then start to intrude on areas such as the Configuration Management Database. It even creates the possibility that Microsoft's answer to all of this would be something rooted in Active Directory technology.

What's everyone's thoughts? Possibility? Is it a natural extension of the market, or is this a big stretch?
-tb

On Feb 7, 2007, at 11:47 AM, Gervas Douglas wrote:

Looking forward this year, is there anything we should look for in the vendor landscape? Manes: Microsoft doesn't really have a registry today. Well, actually they do. They provide one free of charge as part of the Windows server, but it's what gave UDDI a bad name. It's a bare bones implementation of UDDI version 2 and nobody in their right mind should ever consider using it as a real registry. To date, Microsoft hasn't been unwilling to give me any information about future plans they might have in terms of registry/repository components, but my guess is at some point they're going to do something.

Then SAP hasn't really come out with a cohesive registry/ repository. Actually, let me say this, they've got way too many registry/repositories, but they haven't come out with a good, understandable strategy regarding SOA governance. They do have a governance/risk management solution. They call it GRC, governance, risk management, compliance. But that's not SOA governance.

So we still don't know what SAP is going to do. And we still don't know what Microsoft's going to do.>>







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