If this consulting company is one person shop with a few such as book keepers, receptionist etc, then SOA is not needed for itself. If it is a consulting company with 50 people then the issue of organization design stands. Ways to devide and coordinate the tasks is unlimited, there is a ideal way that is most innovative and cost effective. No doubt that some make a lot of money. How much is a lot? Some companies make lots of money and die quickly. Making profits is not the end but means to businesses.
Jerry --- Michael Poulin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I know several consulting companies that build SOA > for others; there is no need to build SOA for > itself because its ENTERPRISE BUSINESS MODEL DOES > NOT NEED IT AT THE LEVEL OF CONSULTING SERVICE > (which is the Business Service). And, by the way, > they doing a lot of money (in spite of Jerry's > thinking). Isn't it the time to put a little > knowledge to the 'practical' experience? > - Michael > > Jerry Zhu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > H.Ozawa, > > Is your current project about a consulting company > servicing a customer or about doing SOA > internally? If > it is the former and we agree that SOA is a > business > concept/model with benefits of agility, cost > reduction > and innovation, does your comany implement SOA > business model yourself? If yes, tell us what it > is. > If not, I don't think that your company can do a > good > job consulting another since you can not even do > one > for yourself. > > If it is the latter, we need further information > before any more comments. > > Best regards > > Jerry > > --- Hitoshi Ozawa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Hi all, > > Understanding and implementation is two > different > > things. > > > > I'm currently involved in an over 4,400 man > month > > project involving SOA. > > If you have been involved in any large project, > > you'll probably know that it > > is nearly impossible to teach every member on a > new > > topic. > > > > For example, I've also been involved in another > > large project to convert > > existing legency system based on COBOL and > assembly > > to Java based > > object oriented system. Trying to teach every > member > > about objects ended > > in a failure mainly because of the time limit. > > > > In a similar fashion, trying to teach every > member > > on SOA is impractical > > within a limited time of a single project. What > we > > do if create a set of > > procedures > > so the outcome will abide by SOA principles. > > > > Furthermore, SOA is not just about IT. To > implement > > concepts of SOA in > > business is > > going to require some time. > > > > What I mean by SOA should be one of the goals of > a > > EA is that it is > > possible to start > > a SOA project without having members know SOA > > concepts and have them > > gradually > > learn SOA as the projects progresses. > > > > Cheers, > > H.Ozawa > > > > Jerry Zhu wrote: > > > Robin > > > > > > Agree with what you said. > > > > > > EA is the thing that bridges business strategy > > > (present and future states and steps from here > to > > > there) to its implementation. It's enterprise > > wide in > > > scope. > > > > > > SOA is in the scope of lines of business and > > concerns > > > business agility - one set of sub > architectures > > (we > > > call it sub because it is the architecture of > > lines of > > > business) among many for EA. > > > > > > EA entails a higher level abstraction than SOA > and > > > yields the understanding of SOA. > > > > > > Jerry > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > Get your own web address. > Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. > http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/domains/?p=BESTDEAL > > > > > > --------------------------------- > TV dinner still cooling? > Check out "Tonight's Picks" on Yahoo! TV. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/r-index
