I'm not very fond of the "2.0" moniker. It's being overplayed.
But the primary concern I have is that "ESB" denotes a product.
If the "ESB2.0" name takes off, every vendor will claim to provide
an ESB2.0 product.

Besides -- this infrastructure isn't a "bus". A better term would be
"network" or "fabric".

I'll also contend that the infrastructure should not be constrained
to a single enterprise. The infrastructure must enable managed
communications with service endpoints outside the enterprise
domain (customers, partners, suppliers, distributors, etc).

That's why I call it a "managed communications infrastructure".

Anne

On 04 Apr 2007 01:37:40 -0700, Hitoshi Ozawa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

  Hi,
+1.
To differentiate with just a messaging bus software, I'm calling it ESB2.0
.
It's a service infrastructure with 4 capability types you've mentioned.
The main difference between ESB2.0 and vendor specific ESB products
is that ESB2.0 aims to facilitate independent softwares to work together
instead of providing an "all-in-one" box.

Cheers,
H.Ozawa


Anne Thomas Manes wrote:
> Sorry to be lax in chiming in here.
>
> My definition of the core capabilities required in a services runtime
> infrastructure is:
>
> - Service platform: a container or hosting system that supports the
> runtime
> lifecycle of a service and provides the framework that enables a
> service to
> access the infrastructure and communicate
> - Service mediation: a mechanism that intercepts in-flight messages and
> enforces policies
> - Service management: a means to monitor and control services, services
> infrastructure components, and message traffic
> - Service registry: a means to enable information exchange among
services
> and service infrastructure components
>
> A few notes:
> - I refer to this infrastructure as a managed communications
> infrastructure
> (MCI) -- not an "ESB". In my mind, an "ESB" is a vendor product, which
> may
> or may not be used to implement an MCI. It is "managed" in the same
sense
> that Java and .NET are managed code environments. The MCI is
> responsible for
> ensuring that messages are delivered properly according to a set of
> defined
> policies.
> - The MCI refers only to the runtime infrastructure. Capabilities
> required
> for development and governance are not included in this model. (I have a
> separate model for governance infrastructure.)
> - Although registries and repositories are closely related, they serve
> different purposes and should be modeled as separate capabilities. A
> registry provides a single access point to find information required
> by the
> runtime infrastructure. It provides references to the actual information
> (metadata, policy, and management information) which may be (and is
> likely
> to be) stored in multiple repositories. The primary role of the
> registry in
> the runtime infrastructure is to support information exchange among the
> runtime components. Repositories are ancillary to the core runtime
> capabilities. They manage information, and therefore are part of the
> governance infrastructure rather than the runtime infrastructure.
> - I don't consider a service to be part of the infrastructure. It is the
> entity that relies on the infrastructure to communicate.
> - The network is below this infrastructure. (The purpose of the
> infrastructure is to abstract the network and to enable managed
> communication.)
> - Security is a cross-cutting concern and must be supported by all
> infrastructure components. Policies dictate what type of security
> measures
> must be enforced, and each component is responsible for enforcing them.
> - A typical runtime infrastructure will include multiple platforms and
> multiple mediation systems, and may include multiple management
> systems. You
> may elect to set up multiple registries, but multiple registries can
> create
> federation issues. I view a registry as establishing the boundary of an
> information domain.
> - Mediation can occur anywhere along the the message path -- as an
> interceptor in the service platform, as a proxy for a service
> endpoint, as a
> central broker, or as an access control point (e.g., in the DMZ). As I
> said,
> a mediator enforces policies. Policies define the rules that apply to
the
> message exchange. They specify rules related to routing, caching,
> persistence, transactions, security, transformations, or whatever else
is
> required to enable the two service endpoints to communicate. Mediation
> should be performed wherever it is most appropriate to perform it,
> although
> you want to keep the number of mediators in a message path to a minimum.
> - Mediators are responsible for managing federation between security
> domains.Requirements for trust, privacy, authentication, etc, are
> defined as
> a set of policies that apply to a specific interaction between two
> parties.
> For example, if the interaction requires a secure conversation, the
> infrastructure should automatically manage the process through which the
> participants exchange keys and establish a secure session (e.g., using
> WS-Trust and WS-SecureConversation).
> - The management system should be able to gather management
> information from
> all infrastructure components, but today we don't have pervasive
> management
> standards. Therefore, for the moment, you need dedicated management
> agents
> to collect management information. Many mediation agents also act as
> management agents.
>
> I think these notes address all the questions raised in this thread.
>
> Anne
>
> On 31 Mar 2007 04:08:51 -0700, Stefan Tilkov <[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]<stefan.tilkov%40innoq.com>
>
> wrote:
>>
>> On Mar 30, 2007, at 5:32 PM, Bill Barr wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > There seems to be a misunderstanding by many that a Service
>> > registry is something that a human is going to interact with
directly.
>> >
>> > Agreed. Registries are machine-readable and repositories are human-
>> > readable. The two need to be aggregated into a single capability.
>> >
>>
>> The one registry I know pretty well, Systinet's UDDI registry, always
>> had a user interface -- so I don't see this as a major distinction.
>> In my understanding, registries store references to all kinds of
>> service artifacts and some additional metadata, while repositories
>> store the actual artifacts themselves.
>>
>> Stefan
>> --
>> Stefan Tilkov, http://www.innoq.com/blog/st/
>>
>>
>

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