On 6/1/07, Steve Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Out of interest what is the view around Security, Reliability and the > other important "enterprise" qualities that don't current exist in the > REST world?
Maybe you could give us an idea of this stuff that REST doesn't have, because the words 'security' and 'reliability' are incredibly vague, and, as far as I thought to myself, I had both using REST... > ... mainly because it isn't > hard and adds yet another "tick" into the boxes and keeps certain > sections of the developer community happy. What do you mean by REST isn't hard? Complex vs. simple, hard vs. easy to implement, hard vs. easy to grok, etc? > My question though is to > what are the actual BUSINESS benefits of doing REST v WS (i.e. in > having two tracks) and I've yet to see a single article looking at > whether REST (or WS) actually progress us towards business goals. A lot of places include infrastructure as part of their buiness goals. > Its really not suprising that the vendors want to do this as what is > the difficulty for them? None whatsoever, and indeed its gives them > the opportunity to resell the old stuff with a slightly different > interface. How does this progress us towards the business goals? A switch from RPC to resource orientation (which, in my view, REST evangelices) is not easily done, so I suspect mos of these implementations will be "accidentally REST" more than anything. > Not > at all as it is just a revision at the current level of operation, in > fact its BELOW that current level as it doesn't include the security, > reliability and addressing elements that WS-* has already addressed. Again, what are these things? I think that because WS-* includes all people mistake REST for a place to also include all. It doesn't, and shouldn't. REST vs. WS-* when talking about features is apples and oranges. > In my simple world we are still arguing about the moving parts of IT > and not really progressing the business agenda. Not all parts of business is about making money; it's also about saving money, and that pesky "from idea to market" process. :) Alex -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Project Wrangler, SOA, Information Alchymist, UX, RESTafarian, Topic Maps ------------------------------------------ http://shelter.nu/blog/ --------
