Yes but the problem starts when comparing theory to practice - the discussion 
tends to compare Web services as they are implemented with REST as its defined 
in a thesis.

Lots of implemented HTTP is not RESTful, either. 

Eric


----- Original Message ----
From: Mark Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2007 4:07:09 PM
Subject: [service-orientated-architecture] Software architecture

Perhaps we can all step back for a second...

Let's - for a moment at least 8-) - forget about REST, WS-*, SOA,
etc.. and just talk about software architecture. Pete laid out a
summary (below) of how, IMO, it all works: how constraints on the
relationship between architectural elements induce certain
architectural properties.

Can we agree that this is a useful way for evaluating architectures &
architectural styles? Or more exactly, can we agree that papers like
Perry & Wolf's "Foundations" , or chapter 1 of Roy Fielding's
dissertation, describe useful evaluation methodologies?

Mark.

On 6/7/07, Peter Lacey <[EMAIL PROTECTED] que.com> wrote:
> I'll admit to a little trolling, but this is not hyperbole, it is not a
> matter of opinion, and it is not a blanket statement based on religious
> fervor. The fact is that there is a paper out there -- you know the one
> -- that analyzes all prevalent means of distributed computing and teases
> out the properties they exhibit and the design factors that brought
> about those properties. Then, emphasizing "constraint and understanding
> of the system context," applies those design factors (constraints) to a
> new architectural style such that the end result is a system that
> provably! exhibits the properties desired. Those properties being
> separation of concerns, scalability, reliability, visibility,
> performance, simplicity, and evolvability.




       
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