The "trendy" answer is Web 2.0 for the skin, SOA for the body.  Mentally
that is how I work on it.  In my SOA book I talked about "virtual services"
that do not do work directly but which present a different view on the
services and capabilities that exist.  This comes from a project I did in
1999 where we had a big backend (C++) and then created a set of services in
Java which represented how the users wished to interact with that
capability.  The user (virtual) services did things like caching and
page-flow (incremental building of information) and was done based on the
user interaction model and the data as they saw it, rather than as the
backend (not service oriented) wanted things to be done.

Its easy to imagine several lightweight virtual services re-purposing the
"true" SOA pieces for different audiences and interaction models.

http://www.capgemini.com/ctoblog/2007/01/diamonds_are_forever_1.php is a
picture representation of the difference between interaction and function
and how the two interact.

Steve


On 27/06/07, JP Morgenthal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  You're premise is correct.  I am constantly having to remind my
development team that we do not change the service to fit the needs of the
UI.  In these cases we have to develop a server-side processor to provide
information aggregation and transformation.  Some might do this with an ESB
today, but I'm using a Microsoft stack.  You might also use a BPM tool to
help in this layer since the UI is probably connected to a business process.
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On Jun 26, 2007, at 5:42 PM, Suhayl Masud wrote:

I am curious to find out how fellow SOA practitioners are handling
the GUI in the SOA world.

The GUI is an interesting beast in SOA (and so is "reporting" for
that matter). GUIs require customized information, tailored to
particular screens. Now you can format information for the screen on
the presentation layer in the GUI, but what if the UI needs
more/different information than the service provides?

To offer a crude hypothetical: consider a service that requires 10
items in an order to process that order in a specific domain, but
the user interface requires 15 information items from the same
domain. Now, one hates to modify the perfectly good business service
specifically to satisfy the needs of one UI. I have seen the
solutions of "presentation services", and have built a few
myself....frankly; they don't really look much like services [they
resemble pure old application APIs over SOAP http).

So, fellow practitioners, how have you handled the requirements of
an information rich user interface in your environments?

-Regards
Suhayl Masud
http://www.linkedin.com/in/smasud


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