An SOA that is built without a reference to business
context or the integration of IT assets often leads to
hindered compliance, impeded information flow and
decreased worker productivity. 
This can subsequently result in a chaotic SOA
implementation process with little business relevance
and an inability to respond quickly and effectively to
changing business needs.
I think business architecture is the input to SOA
desgn. Business and technology are both needed to have
successfuly SOA design and implementation. 
ALl the best

Ash Galal
--- JP Morgenthal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Okay, I'll be the first to say it since we're all
> thinking it.  Ron,  
> Jason, you guys are the biggest threats to SOA!  J 
> (only kidding)
> 
> Seriously,  I think this article is premature. 
> There's not enough  
> evidence of successful REAL SOA projects to help
> steer the tide one  
> way or another.  Personally, we experience a 50%
> reduction in typical  
> integration projects due to using an SOA-based
> design with Web-based  
> Services.  Ultimately, this works out to be a more
> evolved form of a  
> model view controller with services representing the
> model, but  
> still, using WSDL to quickly generate proxies and
> knowing that the  
> services abstract the data allows us to drive
> implementations in a  
> rapid and incremental manner.
> 
> I know, SOA has nothing to do with technology (beat
> me with my own  
> whipping stick)!  Still, I've always said SODA is
> using SOA for  
> application development and there we are achieving
> great results.  I  
> was lucky enough to work on designing a corporate
> reporting structure  
> using SOA, but the company never got to execute
> because the  
> management got canned before they could.  But, this
> is to my point,  
> we don't have enough solid and diverse applications
> of SOA to state  
> that it's threatened.  If anything is threatening
> SOA's existence,  
> it's the lack of diverse proof-points.
> 
> JP
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> On Oct 1, 2007, at 12:09 PM, Gervas Douglas wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > -------- Original Message --------
> >
> > Subject:    [ZapFlash] Who's Killing SOA?
> > Date:       1 Oct 2007 15:58:25 -0000
> > From:       ZapThink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Reply-To:   ZapThink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Who's Killing SOA?
> >
> > Document ID: ZAPFLASH-20071001 | Document Type:
> ZapFlash
> > By: Jason Bloomberg
> > Posted: Oct. 01, 2007
> >
> > Service-Oriented Architecture (SOA) is now well
> past its hype  
> > phase, and is fast approaching a critical
> crossroads. Will  
> > enterprises resolve their current architectural
> challenges,  
> > allowing SOA to become the predominant approach to
> Enterprise  
> > Architecture worldwide? Or will it succumb to the
> pressures of  
> > confusion, misdirection, and ignorance that assail
> it, and become a  
> > tired label that signifies little more than a set
> of product  
> > features? We've seen this sad conclusion before
> with Enterprise  
> > Application Integration -- once a promising
> architectural approach,  
> > now a euphemism for expensive, inflexible
> integration middleware.  
> > Will SOA suffer the same fate?
> > SOA, fortunately, has not yet gone down this path,
> although the  
> > crossroads that will determine SOA's future is
> fast approaching.  
> > And yet, the forces that assail SOA are assembling
> on all sides. It  
> > is time for a rallying cry! Let us recognize the
> threats that SOA  
> > faces, in the hopes that shining light on them
> will help overcome  
> > them. It is not yet too late to save SOA, but time
> is running out.
> >
> > Threats from All Sides
> > ZapThink, of course, has already recognized
> several of the threats  
> > that assail SOA today. Other challenges may come
> as more of a  
> > surprise, and may raise the hackles of individuals
> who may never  
> > have thought they were part of the problem.
> Nevertheless, by  
> > understanding the greater forces that impede SOA's
> success, we can  
> > better overcome them. Here, then, are the forces
> that ZapThink  
> > believes are killing SOA.
> >
> > Integration platform vendors. You're a software
> vendor with a  
> > product line chock full of proprietary,
> tightly-coupled integration  
> > middleware. License revenue is suffering as
> customers look for more  
> > flexible, less expensive ways of leveraging their
> diverse  
> > information technology (IT) resources. As a
> result, you are looking  
> > at SOA. Your software, however, does not lend
> itself to SOA best  
> > practices -- loose coupling, composable Services,
> and flexibility  
> > in general are all capabilities that you failed to
> build into your  
> > software. What to do?
> >
> > Reinventing your company and rearchitecting your
> software from the  
> > ground up is far too expensive and time-consuming,
> and after all,  
> > you already have the older middleware in the can.
> The only option  
> > is to slap Web Services interfaces on your stuff,
> call it an  
> > Enterprise Service Bus (ESB), and sell it as SOA
> middleware.  
> > Hopefully your customers won't notice the old wine
> in new bottles.  
> > After all, that's what marketing is for!
> >
> > Not every integration vendor has taken this route,
> but many have.  
> > You can identify them when their sales people make
> statements like  
> > "ESBs are necessary for SOA," and when their
> marketing deemphasizes  
> > the more significant SOA infrastructure challenges
> of governance,  
> > quality, and management, in favor of distracting
> information like  
> > "underground" videos that convey no indication of
> a true SOA value  
> > proposition.
> >
> > Enterprise architects. EAs are supposed to have a
> comprehensive  
> > perspective on the business and the role that IT
> plays in  
> > supporting its varied and changing needs. While
> many EAs do have  
> > the rare combination of business and technical
> acumen 
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