Just want to ask a question. Are we talking just about "technical
event" or both technical and "business (economic) event"?

That aside, IMHO, after partners negotiate a contract, a
commitment between the partners is created. The commitment may be
fulfilled by creating an event between partners, that may invoke
a service.
We can put this concept into supply chain using trading partners. :>

H.Ozawa

--- In [email protected], Michael 
Poulin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Rob wrote: "service-oriented designs don't address events because 
being event-driven is completely different from being service-
oriented". I think that these two just complement each other.
> 
> Otherwise, we would have troubles designing mediation services, 
for example. Event may be a reason for a service invocation. As well 
as a service may cause an event. 
> 
> SOA "does not encompass EDA" because SOA is not EA; there is no 
need to encompass EDA until it is available on its own.
> 
> - Michael
> 
> Rob Eamon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:                               --- In 
[email protected], andresgr 
>  <angoro@> wrote:
>  >
>  > Hi everyone! First post on the group :)
>  > 
>  > I've been researching the "publish-subscribe" options available 
in 
>  > a SOA today. What i'm searching for is a events "publish-
subscribe" 
>  > model both standard (where standar means both java and .net 
more or 
>  > less) powerful and mature.
>  > 
>  > My impression is that today that does not exist. The options:
>  > 
>  > 1) JMS: not interoperable at the wire level and standar only in 
>  > java.
>  > 2) WS-Eventing - WS-Notification: competing, overlapping and 
>  > inmature standards.
>  > 3) Atom/Rss: very simple, but not powerful.
>  > 
>  > Clearly SOA is somehow "mature" on the *services* aspect but no 
in 
>  > the *events* aspect.
>  
>  One point of view is that service-oriented designs don't address 
>  events because being event-driven is completely different from 
being 
>  service-oriented. An architecture can (and should) include both 
>  notions, but "SOA" does not encompass EDA. The folks at ZapThink 
feel 
>  that all interactions between services are "events" but that 
seems to 
>  be a stretch IMO.
>   
>  One possibility for the technical delivery aspect of EDA is to 
simply 
>  pick one of the leading messaging/ESB solutions. Every one of 
them 
>  has pros and cons and selecting one (or more) is likely to 
provide 
>  the functions you'll need. MQ. AQ. MSMQ. Sonic. Fiorano. 
webMethods. 
>  TIBCO. (I'm violating my own peeve by listing companies instead 
of 
>  products, but you get the idea.)
>  
>  Alas, I'm not sure any of the products today will give you the 
>  universal standard you may be seeking and you'll may end up with 
>  messaging bridges regardless of which product suite you go with. 
>  Changing messaging providers later is theoretically possible (if 
you 
>  avoid proprietary APIs and product-specific features) but in 
practice 
>  it is similar to changing databases--doable but you won't like 
doing 
>  it.
>  
>  -Rob
>  
>  
>      
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