On Nov 22, 2007 4:00 PM, Sanjiva Weerawarana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Mark Baker wrote: > > > > It's not a myth, RESTful systems do not need WSDL. It doesn't need > > any description languages in fact. It needs forms: information sent > > I think WADL folks, Sam Ruby and Leonard Richardson all disagree with you > on that. Actually Ruby & Richardson very clearly indicate that, on what they call the "Programmable Web", WADL can be viewed as an alternative to XHTML forms; in other words that a WADL description can play the runtime role that a form does on the "human web". So can Mark's RDF forms.
> > I don't see what security & caching have to do with scalability. Are > > you talking about REST or HTTPS? > > Caching is a key part of the scalability architecture of HTTP. However, > that only works for HTTP and not HTTPS .. right? > > > > I don't follow the "Lie: RESTful services have a uniform interface" > > argument, but it's prima facie incorrect because they do by > > definition. > > Did you look at the next page? Note I said RESTful *services* .. the URIs > of the service are most certainly part of the *interface* of the service. > Thereby, every RESTful *service* has its own custom interface. WADL > appears to agree 100% as that's what WADL is describing. This is just simply not true. URIs identify resources and resources have a uniform interface. There is no possible way of arguing against that. Perhaps you need to let go of your SOAP-based conception of a service as a single endpoint to which one sends messages and think instead of a web of resources, each having a uniform interface, highly "connected" via hypermedia. In that sense, a RESTful "service" is simply an application, designed in accordance with the constraints of REST, targeting the "programmable web" instead of the "human web". > I hope we don't drop down to a REST vs. WS-* religious war again on this! Now wait a minute, you are the one who posted a "WS-* vs REST" presentation and asked for feedback. > Sanjiva. > > -- > Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D. > Founder & Director; Lanka Software Foundation; http://www.opensource.lk/ > Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2, Inc.; http://www.wso2.com/ > Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/ > Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa; http://www.cse.mrt.ac.lk/ > > >
