RIA and mashups will become more intimately connected with SOA if/when
REST becomes a predominant approach for building services.

Anne

On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 7:08 AM, Todd Biske <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Given that RIA is primarily concerned about the presentation layer,
>  and that an IT view of services is largely about the business layer,
>  there's certainly a relationship between the two, just as there would
>  be with any presentation layer technology. Beyond that, I don't see
>  strong ties that would lead someone to say that the two are joined at
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>  If anything, the one similarity that may exist is that at present,
>  we're just as poor at trying to figure out what user interface
>  elements to mash together as we are at identifying what services need
>  to be the heart of an enterprise portfolio. Portals once promised
>  this highly integrated presentation tier, and while there are
>  certainly small successes, one could argue that it was never leveraged
>  to quite the extent that it was hyped. The hype around RIA talks
>  about all of these mashups, but again, if there's not a business need
>  to mash things together, it will be a solution looking for a problem.
>  Beyond the mashup capabilities, there is certainly value in the
>  underlying rich interface technologies to give a more interactive
>  experience, but that is purely about the presentation tier. Using
>  those technologies will certainly require more XML over HTTP, but
>  again, much of its use may be focused on redesigning existing systems
>  to support it, rather than enabling areas that hadn't been touched
>  before.
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>  While this message may not indicate it, I'm very much an optimist.
>  The problem I see is that we simply lack the contextual data required
>  to make good decisions on how to leverage these techniques to their
>  fullest potential, from both a producer side and a consumer side. A
>  company that does have the right strategic view may be so far out
>  ahead of demand that consumers of that business simply go "ho-hum".
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>  -tb
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>  On Mar 24, 2008, at 12:00 PM, Gervas Douglas wrote:
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>  > Just how relevant do you think RIA is to SOA and vice versa?
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>  > Gervas
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