I think there is a misconception about ESB. Just because ESB is used 
does not mean that is a SOA for better or worse. An ESB can be used 
in a plain old integration project to connect few simple 
applications. Is there any reason that every IT task has to be SOA? 
Most projects do have schedule and budget limitations.

H.Ozawa

--- In [email protected], Gervas 
Douglas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> <<The ESB (enterprise service bus) is perhaps the most 
controversial of 
> tools used for integration and SOA. I say perhaps only because I 
> could've missed something -- but I really can't think of any other 
> integration-related technology tool that's so widely adopted and 
yet 
> generates such debate over whether and how it should be used.
> 
> Perhaps part of the problem is that ESBs are becoming more 
widespread. 
> As I've said before, you can practically get one free with every 
> children's meal these days. They're proliferating like kudzu 
within the 
> enterprise.
> 
> Ironically, there are so many found in enterprises these days that 
ESBs 
> are creating integration problems of their own, according to John 
> Michelsen, chief architect at iTKO Inc., who's quoted in this 
> *TechTarget article* 
> 
<http://searchsoa.techtarget.com/news/article/0,289142,sid26_gci13216
63,00.html?track=NL-110&ad=651139&asrc=EM_NLN_4061195&uid=5657679> 
> on the problem:
> 
> "There's a whole space emerging among enterprise architects called 
ESB 
> intermediation. They're finding that two or three different 
divisions of 
> their company are using different ESBs from different vendors. Yet 
> they're trying to build business processes across these ESBs. But 
the 
> ESBs are designed to be their own center of the universe. How do 
you 
> intermediate transactions across these ESBs?"
> 
> I actually found this article via David Linthicum's *Real World 
SOA blog 
> on InfoWorld* <http://www.itbusinessedge.com/item/?ci=45975>. 
Linthicum 
> was pretty annoyed by the whole topic -- you could practically see 
his 
> veins throbbing just reading the post, particularly when he wrote, 
> "Okay, there are so many things wrong with this I don't know where 
to 
> start."
> 
> But he managed. And how.
> 
> His first point: This shouldn't be happening because you should 
have a 
> centralized SOA plan and an enterprise architect overseeing it who 
can 
> stop this sort of silliness.
> 
> His second point is my favorite, of course, since it ties back 
directly 
> to integration and better explains why this is such a problem:
> 
>     "Second, considering that my first point is correct (which it 
is),
>     why the heck are you attempting to integrate these integration
>     engines when they should perhaps be displaced altogether. 
Because,
>     call me crazy again, that would be cheaper. The fact of the 
matter
>     is that integration engines mediate the differences between
>     multitudes of systems using very different approaches. Thus, 
having
>     two or more ESBs within your enterprise means that you're 
dealing
>     with two or more very different approaches to information
>     integration, and service mediation."
> 
> This wouldn't be happening, he continues, if companies would take 
the 
> following steps in order:
> 
>    1. Determine your requirements.
>    2. Determine the solution patterns you need.
>    3. Buy the technology you need to fulfill steps one and two.
> 
> Identify the problem, make a plan and then find technology that 
makes 
> that plan work? Linthicum, that's just crazy talk. Madness, I say!
> 
> Sorry if I seem flippant. But his post cracked me up. After all, 
this is 
> exactly the type of situation Linthicum's been warning about for a 
long, 
> long time.
> 
> Linthicum's an advocate for clean, working architecture. He even 
> suggested in a *recent piece for ebizQ* 
> <http://www.ebizq.net/topics/soa/features/9913.html> that 
companies 
> should just redo their enterprise architecture if it's too 
> dysfunctional. Partner integration was justification number two, 
by the way.
> 
> I completely see his point, but I suspect rip-and-replace may be 
just 
> too radical for most organizations -- too difficult to admit 
mistakes 
> were made, too hard to undo all the work you've put into an 
> architecture, too expensive to start over.
> 
> Then again, companies may not be concerned about multiple ESBs 
simply 
> because they get conflicting advice about it. While some experts, 
like 
> Linthicum, think it's bad design, *others seem to think it's no 
big 
> deal* <http://www.itbusinessedge.com/blogs/mia/?p=303> and, in 
fact, can 
> be useful. As *I wrote back in December,* 
> <http://www.itbusinessedge.com/blogs/mia/?p=264> one company 
thought 
> having two was a great option, because they could serve as backups 
for 
> each other.
> 
> On the other hand, it must be something of a problem, because *SOA 
> Software even offers a product - Network Director 4.0* 
> 
<http://www.infoworld.com/article/06/06/19/79392_HNsoaesbmind_1.html>
 -- 
> to mediate multiple ESBs.
> 
> Common sense makes me think it would be better to have fewer 
things to 
> integrate than more, so Linthicum's argument makes more sense to 
me. But 
> then again, what do I know? Maybe common sense has no place in 
modern IT 
> architecture.>>
> 
> *You can read this at:
> *
> 
> *http://www.itbusinessedge.com/blogs/mia/?p=423&nr=EEB
> *
> 
> *Gervas*
>


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