On 7/30/08, Steve Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 2008/7/28 Mark Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>  >> What do you use as a measure of "widespread"? Revenue of companies
>  >> using it, employee counts, value per transaction, total value of
>  >> transactions, blog hits?
>  >
>  > Protocol traffic.
>
>
> You are kidding right?  So by that definition then its all about
>  streaming video.

The world is a very large place, and includes a lot of companies that
can potentially do business together.  Any automated solution to
facilitate those business transactions will necessarily produce enough
Internet traffic to show up on graphs like this one.

http://www.caida.org/data/realtime/passive/?monitor=sdnap

If your solution doesn't appear on that graph, it simply doesn't
matter to the world at large.

>  > When was the last time you bought something online? Do you think the
>  > vendor was the only business to be involved with that transaction?
>  > Who did the shipping? The credit card transaction? Other companies
>  > of course, tied together on an on-demand basis through the use of the
>  > Web.
>
>
> Now they might have used something like....
>  http://www.aivea.com/eshipinfo.htm to help with the shipping and then
>  used the UPS Web Service interface because they do a lot of shipping
>  
> (http://raincitysoftware.blogspot.com/2008/02/ups-web-services-interface.html)...
>  they could have used
>  
> http://www.simply-postcode-lookup.com/Address_Software/for_Bespoke_Net_service.htm
>  to lookup the address then checked for fraud on the transaction using
>  http://www.fraudlabs.com/fraudlabs.aspx

Nevermind "might" and "could have".  Do you know what is *actually
used* today?  I think I have a better idea than you do because I work
with and for companies that expose public-facing services, and need to
integrate with these kinds of third party services.

They're pretty much all using HTTP and either XML or HTML URL-encoded
forms (and some Javascript where UI integration was required), so
they're already on the graph.

Mark

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