a single canonical viewacross an enterprise may exist but not used (this is 
what I think Steve meant)
- Michael



----- Original Message ----
From: Steve Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 3:04:11 PM
Subject: Re: [service-orientated-architecture] Re: van Hoof on EDA & SOA


Depends what you mean by canonical.  IME a single canonical view
across an enterprise is pretty much IT suicide.

Steve

2008/10/17 Kirstan Vandersluis <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com>:
> --- In service-orientated- architecture@ yahoogroups. com, Michael
> Poulin <[EMAIL PROTECTED] .> wrote:
>>
>> Yes, it was deliberate overstatement though based on OASIS SOA RM
> standard.
>> When I talk with people who see value in SOA Projects, I usually
> one of two cases (sometimes, both):
>> 1) it is just an initial first pilot project 'to taste the water',
> and it is OK
>> 2) Web Services are used for application integration w/o going
> into real SOA value of business functionality
>>
>> Actually, I do not mind having SOA projects but only AFTER the
> overall business functionality picture and SOA environment are in
> place: think/see globally and move locally.
>
> Yes, thinking globally and acting locally boils it down nicely. But
> the reality is there is so much project-level development going on
> that the project group can't wait around for a global SOA intiative,
> if one even exists. So what advice would you give them? I would
> say Paul's advice, along with his 4 point clarification, is a good
> start. In a nutshell, define common messages as the basis of the
> interface for an endpoint, using XML Schema, with an eye towards
> using or building a canonical model (e.g. a "Customer"). Without
> this guidance, you'll end up with JBOWS with little or no reuse and
> agility, and you'll add to the chaos that will have to be fixed
> eventually.
>
> -Kirstan
>
> 
    

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