I completely agree on the goal, and it is indeed a form of governance
its just that my experience has been that in a large programme the
term governance tends to mean heavy and retarding progress where as
the goal is the managed transition to a new state, its there that I
tend to use "business change" or transformation as the words.

This could also be because clients I work with tend to expect that for
the prices they are paying that we can "do" governance, so that is an
assumed part of the package.

Steve


2008/10/27 Todd Biske <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Yes, governance is another overloaded term that many organizations/people
> will have pre-conceived notions as soon they hear the term.  Finding the
> right angle to take on the problem to get your foot in the door can be the
> most difficult thing.
> My take on it is that there has to be a reason for adopting SOA, something
> that's not being done today or being done poorly.  To get there, something
> normally needs to change.  Simply making a statement of "fix this" probably
> won't cut it, or at best, will provide a one-time fix, but then the
> organization reverts back to past behavior.  We need something to actually
> guide us through that change and ensure that it is a transition to the
> desired state, rather than a band-aid.  I've chosen to focus on governance
> to guide that change.  If someone doesn't like term, I would fall back to
> the discussion of the current failings and get agreement that something
> needs to change and get agreement on the action plan for making that change,
> regardless of what we choose to call it.
>
> -tb
> Todd Biske
> http://www.biske.com/blog/
> Sent from my iPhone
> On Oct 26, 2008, at 11:55 PM, Steve Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> A million management consultants scream out.
>
> I'm 100% with the aim here, but one challenge around calling business
> change "governance" is that in my experience this tends to be a
> finance/IT type term that doesn't always produce positive behaviours
> (i.e. the Sales and Marketing folks tend to hate it and the Production
> guys really understand it, but in a completely different way to what
> you want).
>
> I've tended to split this governance from the policy governance and
> just called the former the "business change stream" its right to say
> its a form of governance but I'm not sure telling everyone that helps.
>
> Steve
>
> 2008/10/24 Gervas Douglas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> Here is an extract from an article in InfoQ:
>>
>> <<Many people have written that the hardest thing about a successful
>> adoption of SOA is not the technology, but rather, the culture change.
>> Whether it's trying to encourage a culture of sharing that goes
>> against the grain of developers that prefer complete control over
>> their solutions, trying to change the way projects are proposed and
>> funding to ensure strategic service creation, or trying to properly
>> manage the new dependencies that are created at run-time, these
>> changes require more than just technology. What is the key to ensuring
>> that the culture change does happen? It is in managing the process of
>> behavioral change, which is governance.>>
>>
>> You can read the whole article at:
>>
>> http://www.infoq.com/articles/implementing-soa-governance
>>
>> Gervas
>>
>>
>
> 

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