Service contract with the consumers can be fixed. It's just gathering
similar but slightly different data from multiple sources. Sometimes,
interfaces are pre-determined. :-)

H.Ozawa

2009/8/24 Michael Poulin <[email protected]>:
>
>
> Oh, this "an intermediary"... In this case, Hitoshi-san, what the consumer
> knows about the service interface - is it with a List or with a non-List? If
> it is with the List - problem not only stays but gets worth; if the consumer
> gets a non-List, do you wan the intermediary be so smart to know what
> transformations are needed for each consumer (assuming that service
> interface is with List)? I do not even talk about Service Contract where all
> service interfaces must be agreed with the consumer (and theĀ  intermediary
> is invisible; we talked about it already in this Forum). What the purpose of
> having List on the sender side while receivers need have non-Lists?
>
> - Michael
>
> ________________________________
> From: Hitoshi Ozawa <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 11:23:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [service-orientated-architecture] Re: good or bad practice? or
> maybe ugly
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> On a local call, using List with TypeOf can be used. List is just a
> handy way to allow different subclasses of List to be passed.
> When using on a network interface, more consideration is necessary. It
> is possible to predefine elements in a List both at both ends but this
> doesn't make too much sense because it defeats the meaning of using
> List. What is possible is to predefine a structure so it will contain
> both the definition and the data. In this case, you'll actually be
> extending the interface standard, which means you shouldn't be using
> it for a public service. It's, nevertheless, is convenient when
> creating a 1 supplier to N consumer format with a List being used
> between a supplier and an intermediary and an intermediary converting
> the List to a non-List's. :-)
>
> H.Ozawa
>
> 2009/8/22 Gregg Wonderly <[email protected]>:
>>
>>
>> In this particular case with Java, the interface can include generic type
>> references on the List to control the types of things sent to it.
>>
>> public int method(List< DataObject> lis)
>>
>> helps software developers know exactly what kind of list should be passed.
>> A
>> List is not any worse than a XML document or a stream of some other
>> structure
>> values. It is important to understand that exporting "DataObject" in the
>> interface definition does create a type base dependency that you have to
>> be
>> ready to manage the life cycle of.
>>
>> Gregg Wonderly
>>
>> jesseezell wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Best practice with service interfaces is to pass messages that have been
>>> specifically crafted to contain information about the requested
>>> operation, not lists of objects. Any interface where you are basically
>>> just taking a call that could have been a local method call and exposing
>>> it over the wire may be a web service, but that doesn't mean it's
>>> service oriented. It is often a good idea not even to use objects from
>>> your domain model directly, because you want your service interface to
>>> be stable.
>>>
>>> --- In service-orientated- architecture@ yahoogroups. com
>>> <mailto:service- orientated- architecture% 40yahoogroups. com>, Sasan
>>> <sasanp...@. ..> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Hi,
>>> >
>>> > Is it good practice to have a service that exposes a method with a
>>> List of objects as a parameter? Programmatically speaking from Java
>>> programming point of view java.util.List.
>>> >
>>> > Example:
>>> >
>>> > public int method(java. util.List objects)
>>> >
>>> > Even if the interface is documented, I do not see this as a good
>>> practice cause this tells me the method takes a list of basically any
>>> object type. This could be troublesome for clients that discover
>>> services dynamically.
>>> >
>>> > I appreciate all opinions on this.
>>> >
>>> > Thanks,
>>> > Sasan
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
> 

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