+1

I'd add that often IT deploys technical things _thinking_ they are
functional because the vendors have convinced them that they are.

Steve


2009/10/7 Gregg Wonderly <[email protected]>

>
>
> I think that in the end, it's that business has no idea about what it
> "technically" needs, but does have all the knowledge about what it
> "functionally" needs. Because business doesn't know how to take it's
> functionally requirements and express them as things that "technically"
> need to
> happen, IT is always buying and deploying stuff that it "technically" sees
> solving problems, but doesn't know how to "functionally" make them useful.
>
> Gregg Wonderly
>
>
> Michael Poulin wrote:
> > I agree with Steve. I have read a couple of researches that state that
> > IT adopts changes 3 times (in average) slower than Business. Plus, IT's
> > 'supporter' role does not help in acceleration. IT will be moving faster
> > only if it is a part of the business.
> >
> > Actually, Business Architecture has as much to do with PaaS as SO
> > architecture has to do with Web Service technology. There is no and will
> > be no business orientation in the IT until Business finally understands
> > that it is service-oriented at the top and must preserve this for the
> > rest of the business structure, and, BTW, picks up IT for automation of
> > some business service functionality. Will IT use WOA, BPLM, Assembler -
> > does not matter whilst the business service runs and capable of adopting
> > changes at the pace of their appearance.
> >
> > I think that only shared calculation power and storage resources may be
> > left in separated IT, everything else, including shared technical
> > services, should be embedded into the business structure with direct
> > business accountability. Shared technical services may belong to the
> > cross-functional cross-divisional management, all others - to the domain
> > LOB/BU. At the same time, the authority of the cross-functional
> > cross-divisional management must be equal or higher than the authority
> > of divisional management (EA including Business and Technical enterprise
> > architects has also to report to cross-functional cross-divisional
> > management). I describe this model in 'Ladder to SOE'.
> >
> > - Michael
> > ----------------------------------------------------------
> > *From:* Steve Jones <[email protected] <jones.steveg%40gmail.com>>
> > *To:* service-orientated-architecture
> > <[email protected]<service-orientated-architecture%40yahoogroups.com>
> >
> > *Sent:* Tue, October 6, 2009 2:32:22 PM
> > *Subject:* Re: [service-orientated-architecture] Hinchcliffe on SOA's
> > Direction
> >
> >
> >
> > This reads like a "WOA as a Silver Bullet" post. The first point is
> > where I take issue and its followed up with the chart as to what
> > "business" is. The reason why the business is evolving faster is that
> > fundamentally IT isn't organised around the business its organised
> > around EA and Software. Putting Business Architecture and PaaS at the
> > same level of "business orientation" is just nonsense but its the sort
> > of nonsense that is all pervading in the industry.
> >
> > What makes SOA work is reorganising your IT department BASED on those
> > services and making people ACCOUNTABLE to the business for the delivery
> > of the business services. Whether you use WOA, WS-*, BPEL, COBOL or
> > what ever is irrelevant as it will be dictated by the particular
> > constraints that you have in a given area. A thin veneer of REST is NOT
> > going to solve all these problems and magically make all of the systems
> > inside and outside of an organisation turn into easy to consume building
> > blocks.
> >
> > SOAP didn't do that, REST won't do that. What will make the change is
> > re-orientating IT towards the business and away from technology.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> >
> > 2009/10/6 Gervas Douglas <gervas.douglas@ gmail.com
> > <mailto:[email protected] <gervas.douglas%40gmail.com>>>
> >
> >
> >
> > <<I've been spending the year assessing where enterprise
> > architecture -- and SOA in particular -- are headed as we begin to
> > leave the first decade of the 21st century. The good news: It's
> > clear that EA and SOA are delivering real value to most businesses
> > today. However as we'll see, there is also considerable room for
> > performance improvement. Trying to map out the direction of these
> > disciplines has resulted in quite a snapshot
> > <
> http://www.slideshare.net/dhinchcliffe/transforming-software-architecture-bouvet-2009
> >
>
> > with many interesting details and nuances that I'll share here
> > throughout the rest of the year.
> >
> > More immediately of interest we can see some trends beginning to
> > stand out clearly right now:
> >
> > 1) *Modern software architecture, with SOA as the top-level
> > organizing principle, seems to have more and more trouble keeping up
> > with the /rate of change/ in most organizations.* Not only have the
> > timelines and schedules of IT and architecture groups never aligned
> > well with business activities, it's now becoming an endemic problem
> > as I've shared experiences with architects around the world
> > recently. There's a growing sense that the business is "pulling
> > away" and despite enterprise architecture and SOA being
> > intentionally proactive, the default stance is one of short-term
> > reactive response and trying to "clean up afterward", an activity
> > which few businesses want to pay for. In short, our traditional
> > services delivery models seem to move too slowly these days to
> > embrace business opportunities as they occur.
> >
> > 2. */Consumption/ of SOA and service-based IT is still too low.*
> > Depressingly low in some cases. The early "field of dreams" approach
> > to services that some organizations practiced (build them and they
> > will come) combined with the proliferation of JBOWS (just a bunch of
> > Web services) finally morphed at last in many organizations into
> > more mature services landscapes with some actual governance. But now
> > we see that the subsequent complexity, rarefied skills and tools,
> > and additional constraints ended up stamping out a lot of SOA
> > consumption at the edge. These days the evidence is beginning to
> > mount (presented below) that a certain style of services -- combined
> > with mechanisms that actively drive consumption and outfitted with
> > real business models -- could address this. There are other emerging
> > solutions to drive consumption of SOA as well. Without consumption
> > and uptake, SOA cannot access the "return" in ROI. Systematic
> > removal of the obstacles to participation in SOA is the goal in this
> > view.
> >
> > The Spectrum of Service-Oriented Approaches: SOA & Web-Oriented
> > Architecture (WOA)
> > <http://www.ebizq.net/blogs/enterprise/images/soa_woa_spectrum.png>
> >
> > 3. *The focus on SOA still tends to be on the /[over]engineering of
> > seams and processes/ instead of removing constraints on the business
> > and increasing ready access to value.* We are still not providing
> > good enough reach to our enterprise data, IT systems, or people.
> > Despite heavy investments in IT for 30 years and the openness and
> > interoperability intents of SOA, the majority of our enterprise data
> > remains submerged and inaccessible to most business users, silos are
> > still prevalent, and there still lacks the human dimension, the
> > latter which can represent the use of more effective architectures
> > of participation or the involvement of more than IT in the strategic
> > development of SOA.
> >
> > While important cross-cutting concerns -- like security efforts or
> > the imposed siloed architectures of enterprise software suites (ERP,
> > CRM, HRM, etc) or even turf boundaries (see Conway's Law
> > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conway%27s_Law>) -- are also
> > responsible for many of these issues, at the core seems to be a
> > project-oriented focus instead of a product-oriented focus with SOA.
> > This is not to say that good engineering is not important, but that
> > we are too often aiming at the wrong part of the SOA tolerance
> > continuum
> > <
> http://web2.socialcomputingjournal.com/tolerance_and_experience_continuums.htm
> >.
> >
> >
> > Looking to successful models of SOA for answers
> >
> > As an industry it's also apparent that we have too few examples of
> > good SOA to point to and use as reference models. Most success
> > stories are behind the walls of other organizations that are just as
> > inclined to keep the secrets of success to themselves. Best
> > practices and effective approaches therefore are not always likely
> > to spread when they should. In fact, it's fairly easy to argue that
> > the evolution of SOA has often moved far faster in standards bodies
> > than by validation of effective new ideas in the field that are only
> > then adopted and standardized when they work well.
> >
> > Interestingly, this means the openness and visibility of today's
> > modern Web seems to provide living examples of what's effective at
> > driving forward business results with SOA. By this I mean when it
> > addresses the key issues around improving the response to
> > opportunities and directly enabling self-service, all while
> > remaining highly scalable and protecting users and data. While I've
> > been writing about Web-Oriented Architecture (WOA)
> > <http://blogs.zdnet.com/Hinchcliffe/?p=168> for some time now, it's
> > in truth a parallel "track" for SOA that's evolved organically in
> > the wilds of the online world to meet many of the same challenges
> > that we have in our organizations today.
> >
> > *Related: Fixing Enterprise Architecture: Balancing the Forces of
> > Change in the Modern Organization
> > <
> http://www.ebizq.net/blogs/enterprise/2009/09/fixing_enterprise_architecture.php
> >*
> >
> > Key to the story of WOA is that at least one critical feedback loop
> > is present in online businesses that is much less evident in most
> > SOA efforts today: Their business will fundamentally thrive or die
> > based on the adoption of their services. Most new online businesses
> > offer an API (the Web version of SOA) at the very outset these days
> > and it's now common for the services themselves -- instead of the
> > visual Web pages -- to be the dominant point of usage early on.
> > Online firms offer APIs in easy to use formats and then market and
> > evangelize them extensively precisely because there is an urgent
> > need and these are the best ways to drive adoption. There is also
> > more direct and immediate business value in this model since
> > carefully measured use and consumption is /the/ yardstick by which
> > online firms are measured. It's also what they monetize, an entire
> > area that's seriously underdeveloped in enterprise SOA for both
> > internal and external customers. This is a yardstick that would
> > change a lot of what we focus on in SOA.
> >
> > Imagine how we might behave and prioritize our efforts if our
> > success was largely based on the number of points and overall level
> > of consumption of SOA services, internally as well as partners and
> > customers. Unfortunately, as Joe McKendrick noted yesterday in "SOAs
> > too big to fail
> > <http://www.ebizq.net/blogs/soainaction/2009/09/soas_too_big_to_fail.php
> >",
> > we may be increasingly isolated from that pressure as the business
> > becomes more and more dependent on SOA. Ironically, this seems to be
> > encouraging an organizational structure (which often is the IT
> > department itself) that is isolated from market pressures.
> >
> >
> > How WOA can help SOA reach the next level of performance
> >
> > While there are certainly many aspects of WOA that need to have an
> > enterprise context added to them to work for traditional businesses,
> > you can see from the visual above that a successful and capable
> > service-based approach has emerged naturally side-by-side with
> > classical SOA. At their roots, they both have great commonalities
> > (HTTP, interoperability, and recombinant software), and some key
> > differences as well. Intriguingly however, these often line up with
> > many of the issues we're now seeing holding back the next level in
> > business performance of SOA:
> >
> > * *Responding to change faster.* Reducing execution chokepoints
> > by making SOA more self-service (running your SOA like a
> > business <http://blogs.zdnet.com/Hinchcliffe/?p=525>) by
>
> > broader audiences in the organization.
> > * *Increasing consumption.* Using new service delivery models
> > that make SOA the easiest, cheapest, and fastest way to solve
> > problems.
> > * *Actively enabling access to value.* Opening up broad access
> > to data and people using models such as deeply linked
> > REST-based data webs and open supply chains. Adopt
> > browser-based approaches to consumption such as enterprise
> > mashups tools and user distributable widgets that project the
> > SOA across the organization.
> >
> > We certainly don't need to throw away everything that we've done
> > with SOA to achieve these performance improvements, far from it.
> > However, we must change much of the focus on what we do and how we
> > do it. There are also some key additions to technical approaches
> > that will be required such as adopting enterprise REST, making IT
> > systems more mashup friendly, and updating existing delivery models
> > such as portals and intranets to be more malleable, self-service,
> > and connected to SOA data and resources.
> >
> > The bottom line: Since many of the very best examples of SOA that
> > works are the models we seeing being proven out in large scale on
> > the Web, we must learn as much as we can from them (and the price is
> > right, even the most compelling lessons here are free.) While
> > enterprise SOA will never be identical to Internet-based WOA, we can
> > borrow the best ideas from the success stories that have emerged on
> > the Global SOA (which is what I call the service-enabled side of the
> > Internet).
> >
> > We are also starting to see evidence that a more mature melding of
> > Web-oriented service models with the enterprise is actually starting
> > to happen. For example, an InformationWeek survey this year
> > <
> http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=214501922>
> > showed that on the technical side of the SOA/WOA stack, SOAP
> > adoption appears to be dropping in enterprises (54% a year ago to a
> > projected 42% in the next 18 months) while REST is on the rise (14%
> > to 24% over the same time frame). The recent announcement of the
> > opening up of EMML <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EMML> is also
> > showing that WOA concepts around lightweight composite applications
> > (mashups) have moved into SOA territory.
> >
> > While emerging initiatives such as JBOSS's REST-*
> > <http://jboss.org/reststar> may or may not help with this
> > transition, as more of the foundation of WOA is available in
> > organizations, richer and more effective outcomes on the business
> > side of the the WOA equation are possible as well. No doubt this
> > will take years, but this evidence and others shows that we are
> > already beginning to incorporate the lessons of WOA into enterprise SOA.
> >
> > In an upcoming post, I'll look at emerging new SOA practices that
> > are coming from other sources as well.>>
> >
> > You can find this at:
> >
> >
> >
>
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