> On 6 feb 2015, at 22:21, Karen Kinnear <karen.kinn...@oracle.com> wrote:
>
> Chris,
>
> So I was curious - I was thinking you would printing the hex address of the
> j.l.ClassLoader class rather than the cld so that if folks were to look
> at a heap dump later it might be meaningful to them. Is it unlikely that they
> would ever want to correlate those?
>
>
> On Feb 6, 2015, at 3:15 PM, Chris Plummer wrote:
>
>> I was also thinking it might be a good idea to indicate what the hex value
>> is, although still have figured out the best way of doing this. Maybe just a
>> simple comment before the output. Keep in mind that eventually other DCMDS
>> will also include the cld to help uniquiely identify classes across dcmd
>> output. Also keep in mind your earlier suggestion:
>>
>> java.lang.Object/0x12345600
>> |--java.io.Serializable/0x12345601
>> |--java.util.RandomAccess/0x12345602
>> |--java.lang.Iterable/0x12345603
>> | |--java.util.Collection/0x12345604
>> | | |--java.util.List/0x12345605
>> |--java.util.AbstractCollection/0x12345606
>> | | implements java.util.Collection/0x12345604
>> | | implements java.lang.Iterable/0x12345603
>> | |--java.util.AbstractList/0x12345607
>> | | implements java.util.List/0x12345605
>> | | |--java.util.Arrays$ArrayList/0x12345608
>> | | | implements java.io.Serializable/0x12345601
>> | | | implements java.util.RandomAccess/0x12345602
>>
>> With additions to GC.class_stats:
>>
>> Index Super ClassLoader ClassName
>> 1 -1 0x00000007c0034c48 java.lang.Object/0x12345600
>> 2 1 0x00000007c0034c48 java.util.List/0x12345605
>> 3 31 0x00000007c0034c48 java.util.AbstractList/0x12345607
>>
>> And GC.class_histogram:
>>
>> num #instances #bytes class name
>> ----------------------------------------------
>> 1: 945 117736 java.lang.Object/0x12345600
>> 2: 442 50352 java.util.List/0x12345605
>> 3: 499 25288 java.util.AbstractList/0x12345607
>>
>> I think in your case you assumed we would create a unique identifier for
>> each class, but then we settled on just classname + ClassLoader identifier
>> of some sort, and the CLD* works for that. So replace your hex class ID in
>> the above with the hex CLD*.
>>
>> Also something Karen had said is just now starting to sink in and make sense
>> to me:
>>
>> |-sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader/null (0xyyy)
>> |-myapp/0xyyy
>>
>> I think the idea here is that when printing a ClassLoader subclass, you
>> include two CLDs. The first is for the ClassLoader that loaded the class,
>> and the second is the CLD for the ClassLoader subclass itself. Thus the
>> above indicates that myapp was loaded by 0xyyy, which is the
>> sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader, which was loaded by the null ClassLoader.
> I apologize - I don't remember what I said. But I am not sure we need that
> level of complexity. I think I was asking that one of the dcmds that gives
> information could print information like 0xabc "a
> sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader" or "a WLS.blah.GenericClassLoader" if we
> don't want to include
> that everywhere. Mostly people want to know the name of the class loader.
> Since they don't yet have names, they want to know the type of the
> classloader. So that string "a MyClassLoader" would be more meaningful than
> the 0xabc - except that if they
> have 5 of those they need the uniqueness. So personally I think I was
> proposing the
> java.base, 0xA/"a MyClassLoader", iface).
>
> But I would defer to Staffan if he suggests something else.
The mapping from “Klass of the j.l.ClassLoader” to “type of the ClassLoader” is
available in the VM.classloader_stats command:
ClassLoader Parent CLD* Classes ChunkSz
BlockSz Type
0x00000007c0038d10 0x00000007c0036240 0x00007faf7843d8f0 1 6144
1496 sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader
0x00000007c0036240 0x0000000000000000 0x0000000000000000 0 0
0 sun.misc.Launcher$ExtClassLoader
0x0000000000000000 0x0000000000000000 0x00007faf7852ffd0 432 4587520
2851696 <boot class loader>
Total = 3 433 4593664
2853192
ChunkSz: Total size of all allocated metaspace chunks
BlockSz: Total size of all allocated metaspace blocks (each chunk has several
blocks)
I think that having the mapping in one place is enough.
/Staffan
>
> thanks for your patience,
> Karen
>>
>> With regard to the '/' format, keep in mind that we also need an indicator
>> of whether or not it's an interface, and there's also a request to include
>> the module name when that becomes available. At one point you requested the
>> following, which is what I was aiming for:
>>
>> java.lang.Object
>> |--java.io.Serializable (java.base, 0x00000007c00375f8, iface)
>> |--java.util.RandomAccess (java.base, 0x00000007c00375f8, iface)
>>
>> So maybe I can do:
>>
>> java.lang.Object
>> |--java.io.Serializable/0x00000007c00375f8 (java.base, intf)
>> |--java.util.RandomAccess/0x00000007c00375f8 (java.base, intf)
>> ...
>> |-sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader/0x00000007c00375f8 (java.base,
>> CLD=0x000000087654320)
>> |-myapp/0x000000087654320
>>
>> So now the classname and its classloader id (which is the CLD*) are grouped
>> together to make it easy to strip out or to search for in more than one dcmd
>> output. I think this is probably what you were striving when you proposed
>> using '/', and other DCMDs can eventually be changed to do the same. Also,
>> once you know the CLD of the ClassLoader, you can find out the name of the
>> ClassLoader class by looking for CLD=<classloaderID>
>>
>> I can go with "null" for the null ClassLoader if you want. I used it's
>> ClassLoaderData* to be consistent with the other ClassLoaders. Just let me
>> know which you prefer.
>>
>> thanks,
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> On 2/6/15 12:52 AM, Staffan Larsen wrote:
>>> I think this looks good! Perhaps we should give a hint as to what the hex
>>> value is? I don�t know if it is best to print this as part of a �header�
>>> printed before the rest of the output or if we should include it as part of
>>> each line �(classloaderdata*=0x080609c8)�.
>>>
>>> /Staffan
>>>
>>>> On 6 feb 2015, at 05:49, Chris Plummer <chris.plum...@oracle.com>
>>>> <mailto:chris.plum...@oracle.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> [Hmm. My previous email somehow included the attachment with the dcmd
>>>> output, but not the body of the message, so here it is again.]
>>>>
>>>> Hey Folks,
>>>>
>>>> Sorry about the delay in getting the next webrev for this out. I was
>>>> sidetracked by a few other things, including being out sick of almost a
>>>> week, and there were also quite a few changes to make.
>>>>
>>>> I'm ready for review with an updated webrev, but thought first I'd have
>>>> you look at and comment on the output. Please see the attached file. It
>>>> now supports:
>>>>
>>>> printing the hierarchy for a single class
>>>> optionally including all subclasses of the specified class (-s)
>>>> for each class, also list all of its interfaces (-i)
>>>>
>>>> The hex value in the output is the address of the ClassLoaderData for the
>>>> ClassLoader of the class. I did not include the address of the Klass, but
>>>> could if you think it would be useful. Changing the format of what comes
>>>> after the classname is easy. Just let me know what you think is best.
>>>>
>>>> I have not updated any other dcmds to be consistent with how classes are
>>>> uniquely identified. A separate bug should be filed for that. Actually I
>>>> thought one was, but I looked through this thread's history and could not
>>>> find mention of it. I also have not implemented the reverse hierarchy
>>>> dcmd. JDK-8068830 has already been filed for that, but there are no plans
>>>> to work on it in the near term.
>>>>
>>>> thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Chris
>>
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