Hi Daniel, 

Yes, I've tried running the tests many times but it hasn't yet failed for me. 
The failures are reported to occur only rarely, however, the cause of the 
failures is clear according to the stack trace at the CR. 
For me the test, on all platforms, passes, as before, from the 1st attempt.

I do not know what timeout value would be the best and did not see anything 
wrong with the initially proposed 3 sec timeout. Most of the time the timeout 
will not occur and when it occurs it, probably, makes sense to wait for a 
longer rather than for a shorter time.

Can there be an agreement on the timeout value (such as the proposed 100 ms) so 
I can submit the changes with the agreed time value?

Best regards,
Alexander

----- Original Message -----
From: daniel.fu...@oracle.com
To: alexander.kulyakh...@oracle.com, marti...@google.com
Cc: serviceability-dev@openjdk.java.net
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 4:57:04 PM GMT +03:00 Iraq
Subject: Re: RFR: 8143121: 
javax/management/remote/mandatory/loading/MethodResultTest.java fails 
intermittently

Hi Alexander,

That still look good to me - I would maybe go for 100ms rather
than 10ms. Have you tried to run the test in the same
conditions/platform where the test was observed failing?

best regards,

-- daniel


On 24/11/15 13:58, Alexander Kulyakhtin wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Following the finding from Martin, I have changed the delay before the
> retry to 10 ms
>
> Webrev:
> http://cr.openjdk.java.net/~akulyakh/8143121_03/test/javax/management/remote/mandatory/loading/MethodResultTest.java.udiff.html
>
> Best regards,
> Alexander
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: marti...@google.com
> To: alexander.kulyakh...@oracle.com
> Cc: daniel.fu...@oracle.com, serviceability-dev@openjdk.java.net
> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2015 9:15:20 PM GMT +03:00 Iraq
> Subject: Re: RFR: 8143121:
> javax/management/remote/mandatory/loading/MethodResultTest.java fails
> intermittently
>
> 3 seconds sounds like an awfully long time between retries.  I'd guess
> that 10ms would be sufficient most of the time for other threads to get
> around to doing something, and 100ms for other Java processes.
>
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 7:00 AM, Alexander Kulyakhtin
> <alexander.kulyakh...@oracle.com
> <mailto:alexander.kulyakh...@oracle.com>> wrote:
>
>     Hi Daniel,
>
>     Thank you very much for your feedback.
>
>     I have posted to the group an updated webrev introducing a 3 sec
>     sleep before the next retry.
>
>     Webrev:
>     
> http://cr.openjdk.java.net/~akulyakh/8143121_02/test/javax/management/remote/mandatory/loading/MethodResultTest.java.udiff.html
>
>     Best regards,
>     Alexander
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     From: daniel.fu...@oracle.com <mailto:daniel.fu...@oracle.com>
>     To: alexander.kulyakh...@oracle.com
>     <mailto:alexander.kulyakh...@oracle.com>
>     Cc: serviceability-dev@openjdk.java.net
>     <mailto:serviceability-dev@openjdk.java.net>
>     Sent: Monday, November 23, 2015 5:51:28 PM GMT +03:00 Iraq
>     Subject: Re: RFR: 8143121:
>     javax/management/remote/mandatory/loading/MethodResultTest.java
>     fails intermittently
>
>     Hi Alexander,
>
>     On 23/11/15 13:09, Alexander Kulyakhtin wrote:
>      > Hi Daniel,
>      >
>      > Thank you very much for the review.
>      >
>      > I presumed that in such case the jtreg will terminate the test by
>     timeout and so I wanted to avoid any specific delays and counters.
>      > If it's not safe to presume that, then I'm going to limit the
>     number of retries to 5 times introducing a delay of 3 seconds
>     between the reties, or I can use any other values if there are more
>     preferable values.
>
>     I agree that it's usually better to avoid to handcraft
>     arbitrary timeouts in tests. These have a habit of
>     coming back and bite you ;-(
>
>     If the reason for the connection failure is a race
>     condition where the server side is not ready yet, then
>     forcing the client side to sleep will hopefully
>     make some room for the server side to come up.
>
>     What I'm most concerned here is avoiding the busy loop,
>     as the busy loop could make things worse (rather than
>     helping).
>
>     So your proposed changes sound good - and Shanliang's
>     too - provided you free up some CPU time for the other
>     (possibly daemon) threads to complete their work.
>
>     best regards,
>
>     -- daniel
>
>      >
>      > Best regards,
>      > Alexander
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      > ----- Original Message -----
>      > From: daniel.fu...@oracle.com <mailto:daniel.fu...@oracle.com>
>      > To: alexander.kulyakh...@oracle.com
>     <mailto:alexander.kulyakh...@oracle.com>,
>     serviceability-dev@openjdk.java.net
>     <mailto:serviceability-dev@openjdk.java.net>
>      > Sent: Monday, November 23, 2015 2:32:27 PM GMT +03:00 Iraq
>      > Subject: Re: RFR: 8143121:
>     javax/management/remote/mandatory/loading/MethodResultTest.java
>     fails intermittently
>      >
>      > Hi Alexander,
>      >
>      > This looks a bit dangerous to me - it could create a busy loop
>      > if for some reason the connection can never go through.
>      >
>      > I would suggest retrying only once (or retrying a fixed number
>      > of times) - and possibly introducing a small delay (Thread.sleep)
>      > before retrying.
>      >
>      > best regards,
>      >
>      > -- daniel
>      >
>      > On 23/11/15 12:19, Alexander Kulyakhtin wrote:
>      >> Hi,
>      >>
>      >> Could you, please, review this small, test-only, change:
>      >>
>      >> CR: https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8143121
>      >> Webrev:
>     
> http://cr.openjdk.java.net/~akulyakh/8143121/test/javax/management/remote/mandatory/loading/MethodResultTest.java.udiff.html
>      >>
>      >> The precondition for this test is a JMXConnector having
>     established a successful connection.
>      >> On some environments the test sometimes can not connect at the
>     first attempt, because the target application is not yet ready.
>      >> We are changing the test so that it tries to connect again if it
>     gets IOException during the connection.
>      >>
>      >> Best regards,
>      >> Alexander
>      >>
>      >
>
>

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