Any chance you're (a) familiar with Apache/Linux, and (b) willing to be
persuaded to talk a newbie Apache admin (old-hand C++/Java coder, but
new-hand Linux admin) through the process of setting up authorization? :)

Ted Neward
Patterns/C++/Java/CORBA/EJB/COM-DCOM spoken here
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 "I don't even speak for myself; my wife won't let me." --Me

-----Original Message-----
From: Steven J. Owens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sunday, July 04, 1999 10:04 PM
Subject: Re: Remote user information


>Annu Singh asks:
>
>>         I have been trying to get a remote user id in a servlet I have
>> written. I am using the "getRemoteUser()" function but it returns a null.
I
>> was told to configure my Web server to allow user authentication. I tried
>> doing it but have not been successful in doing so, as after making the
>> changes mentioned in various docs - I still get a "null" value. (I have
>> tried using ".htaccess" file, htpasswd command, security.authentication
>> directive etc ... but did not work for me).
>
>     I'm lightweight on the java/servlet areas, but I can give you a
>brief overview of user authentication.
>
>     In essence, there's a standard in HTTP for low-security
>authentication.  You can set up your web server so that certain
>resources - files, scripts, etc - can't be accessed by a client unless
>the client authenticates the user by including a username and
>passwordd with the request.  Exactly how you tell your webserver that
>a set of pages require authentication depends on the particular
>webserver.  Using .htaccess file is one of the most popular
>approaches, and it's the one Apache uses by default.
>
>     When the client - the browser - requests that file without
>including authentication information in the request, the server will
>automatically respond with a prompt for authentication - a username
>and password.  That prompt also includes information about which files
>are covered by that particular authentication requirement.
>
>     Typically the browser will pop up a username & password prompt
>the first time the server requests authentication, then remember that
>username and password and automatically re-send them when it asks for
>further pages from that "domain" (domain in a general sense, not the
>internet DNS sense; if the authentication is required for a directory,
>then it's also required for all pages in that directory and all
>subdirectories, etc).
>
>     With CGI scripts, the web server stores the username in an
>environment variable that's in the environment the CGI script inherits
>when it starts up.  With servlets, you have to use a method to request
>the username.  But the information won't be there unless you define
>the servlet/page as requiring authentication.
>
>     From the server's "stateless" point of view, each request for an
>authentication-required page is a brand new request, with a brand new
>username & password conversation between the server and the client
>required.  But the browser handles resending the information behind
>the scenes, proactively, beating the server to the punch without
>bothering the user.  This only lasts as long as the browser is in
>memory, though - unlike cookies, the browser won't save the
>information between sessions (cookies with no defined expiration date
>also handled this way).
>
>     Something to note is that the username & password aren't sent in
>a very secure fashion.  The "scheme" most browsers use is base64,
>which I've read isn't very secure.  I don't know if/how that changes
>if you make the browser get authenticated page from an SSL server.  I
>suspect that SSL protects it more, since it stands for 'secure SOCKETS
>LAYER', and hence it would protect the request headers as well as the
>request body.  But you'll have to do your own homework there.
>
>Steven J. Owens
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
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