These comments are not entirely accurate.  Some important development team
synergy issues have been ignored.

Imagine, if you can, that you are not the "lone ranger" of your teeny-tiny
little web development group.  Consider a large, technically diverse
development team.  Got it?  Are you imagining this?  (Hint: There are
architects, designers, QA engineers, GUI designers, OO programmers, unit
testers, CM engineers, and many others.)

Having the people on your team who just know how to use FrontPage,
DreamWeaver, etc. to do web-based GUIs do anything at all with JSP is just
not feasible.  That's right, your team is large and diverse enough that
there are some GUI-only people who do not know about or care about Java.
(Shock, horror, but also the way it goes on real teams.)  Oh, and here's the
kicker - the Java middleware programmers do not care about the GUI
implementation!

Having the web-based GUI team members simply place marker tags (we use a
specially formatted HTML comment) in their GUI templates where the servlet
should dynamically inline data at runtime (yes, a lot like JSP, but the
distinction is important) is perfectly reasonable.

>From a team workflow/responsibility standpoint, JSP is a horrible conflict.
Why should web-based GUI people care about JSP?  Why should Java middleware
people have to touch the web-based GUIs to add JSP?  Ick.

The situation reminds me of back when client/server first became popular and
the 4GL developers learned they could embed the SQL within the client.  DBAs
sat idle (instead of writing stored procedures, like they should have been)
while the client-side developers inserted horrible SQL into their 4GL
implementations... but I digress.  ;-)

I will not even touch upon the performance issues of JSP versus other forms
of servlet-based data inlining into an HTML GUI template...

Shad

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> >You are re-inventing jsp...
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> My thoughts exactly :)
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