Brian Gupta wrote:
>
>
>     The first reason listed is a big one.  In my mind, it is 99.44% of any
>     reason
>     for doing this.  In all honesty, it may be a big enough reason by
>     itself.
>
>
> If this is reason enough, why does it need to be limited to this?
It was in what you elided from the reply.

It implies that OSH must exist to solve those other problems. Nothing
could be further from the truth.  Solving those ills is not dependent on
the existence of OSH - implying such is a disservice.

I assume the list was to motivate folk to join your project.  I believe you
were misleading them as to the benefits.  Its only my opinion that #1
has significant importance.  Others may believe it is some other number
which is important and not dependent on OSH to address.  Bad mojo...
>
>     #2 is probably important to a lot of folk.  Its just not important to
>     me.  I'm
>     a capitalist, not a "free as in speech" fanatic. No judgment implied.
>
>     Few, if any, of the other issues require OSH to allow them to be
>     addressed.
>     A couple of them might be easier in an OSH context.  None of these
>     seemed important (IMHO).
>
>
> OpenSolaris was in my opinion a name that may have served a great 
> marketing purpose at the time. (Not to mention commit Sun to open 
> source in a pretty public way) Currently it is really really 
> confusing. (Joseph you remember my complete bafflement when I came 
> into the community. Do we really want to have this discussion when 
> even a new participant comes in? (It really is non obvious to 
> outsiders, I think this is a point that is really being completely 
> underestimated by those involved in the process). At least I could get 
> up to speed because I am a Solaris sysadmin. We really need to be 
> targeting the guys who used to code SunOS and then moved on to hacking 
> BSD and then Linux. It's this last group though that we really need to 
> convince.
I'm totally lost as to what you are trying to say here or how it relates 
to the
included text above.

The first paragraph of mine you included simply acknowledges that reason #2
is valid and may be important to others (just not to me).

The second paragraph on mine you included is the main point I'm trying
to make - those valid issues can be solved independently of OSH and
therefore are not a justification for OSH.

- jek3

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