Thanks for the reply. I guess I should have been more explicit in the
details, so let me try again:

The CHAP authentication failure is on the STN box when it first boots up,
not when I bring up a browser. STN attempts to make a connection at boot-up.

As for the different scenarios, I have used STN with BellSouth.net via
dialup, with BellSouth.net via ADSL, and with prestige.net via cable modem.
STN works flawlessly in all of these scenarios. The only way I am able to
connect to MSN, however, is direct with no STN. So obviously there is
something that MSN is looking for that STN needs to send. I noticed that
when I use MSN through prestige.net (similar to AOL's Bring Your Own
Provider), I have to use "Log on using Secure Password Authentication" to
get my mail. So I assume I have to use some kind of "Secure Password
Authentication" from STN, but I don't know how to do this. On the Road
Runner setting there are several selections for special requirements like
that, but nothing similar on dial-up connections.

As for dumping MSN, I can't do that for 3 years, since I used the $400
rebate at Best Buy to buy a bunch of goodies *S*. I use my cable modem most
of the time, but needed a nationwide dial-up ISP for travelling, and I HATE
the free ones. So, I'm kinda stuck.

This is the log from STN:

pppd[104]: Starting link
chat[120]: report (CONNECT)
chat[120]: abort on (ERROR)
chat[120]: abort on (NO CARRIER)
chat[120]: send (atdt<local msn #>^M)
chat[120]: expect (CONNECT)
chat[120]: atdt<local msn #>^M^M
chat[120]: CONNECT
chat[120]: -- got it
pppd[104]: Serial connection established.
pppd[104]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/cua0
pppd[104]: Remote message: ^@
pppd[104]: CHAP authentication failed
pppd[104]: LCP terminated by peer
pppd[104]: Connection terminated.
pppd[104]: Connect time 0.1 minutes.
pppd[104]: Starting link
chat[143]: report (CONNECT)
chat[143]: abort on (BUSY)
chat[143]: abort on (ERROR)
chat[143]: abort on (NO CARRIER)
chat[143]: send (atdt<local msn #>^M)
chat[143]: expect (CONNECT)
chat[143]: alarm
chat[143]: Failed
pppd[104]: Connect script failed

Anyone else encounter this problem?

Cheers,
Carl

> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 23:39:18 -0500
> From: Arnie Rothenbaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [ShareTheNet]  Second request: Using MSN with Share the Net
>
>
> I'll take a stab here.
>
> This is all surmising on my behalf based not in fact but only in my own
> paranoia of Microsoft.
>
> My guess is that MSN is attempting to pass things back to your browser and
> probably is being passed stuff (do you like these technical terms) by
> Explorer.  I guess you are using Explorer?  And the firewall is preventing
> said passing.  I'd be interested to see if any firewall router would cause
the
> problems.  Your references to "Works fine with cable, worked fine  with
ADSL,
> worked fine with bellsouth.net dialup" I assume that means with "no STN "
in
> between these connections when attempting to connect to MSN?  Does you STN
> dial up bellsouth.net, or connect to the  ADSL and the cable?  Or do you
mean
> that once connected with STN to these ISP's you are able to http to
msn.com?
>
> I'd also be interested to see if the same things happen with Netscape on
the
> direct connect calling to MSN.
>
> So, rather than just ramble on, I decided to do a search on
www.dogpile.com
>
> "CHAP authentification error" shows up 0 on a dogpile.com search.
>
> but
>
> chap authentification error
>
> with no quotes at www.dogpile.com  got some stuff you might want to read.
> It's a login protocol and the NT Web Server at Microsoft (you mean they
don't
> use Linux) is giving you a time of it.  Check out these sites for more
help.
> In a nutshell, I'm not a Linux guy so I'd be in the same boat you're in.
But
> then I'd dump MSN and get another ISP.  I'm not religious.
>
> http://www.linuxgazette.com/issue21/ppp.html
>
> http://ldp.iol.it/LDP/LG/issue47/lg_tips47.html   (this url says:
> First you need to know what authentification method your ISP uses. This
can be
> PAP or CHAP or just a plain-text password. Then you need to tell kppp to
use
> that authentification method. I'm not familiar with kppp, so look at the
> documentation. :-)
>
> http://www.hwaci.com/sw/eznet/eznet.html
>
> this looks like a great site for you:
> http://www.isdn4linux.de/leafsite/setup_e.html
>
> Good Luck,
> Arnie
>
>
> C Nelson wrote:
>
> > Is there a way to connect to MSN with Share the Net? I understand that
MSN
> > uses some kind of unusual handshaking. I get a CHAP authentification
error
> > and MSN disconnects immediately. Works fine with cable, worked fine with
> > ADSL, worked fine with bellsouth.net dialup.
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