Craig,

I have licenses (really!  Actual, legitimate licenses...)  Cost is not 
an isue - as a previous employer (just before they gave up the ghost and 
died), was -THROWING AWAY- fully licensed copies of NTS/W 4.0.  (They 
were an OEM, and had stacks of them)  I grabbed a few.  Guess you just 
had to be there....

VNC is another option - as I have some friends at my current employer 
who are interested in this stuff

I am experimenting with the inbound VPN stuff & will report results.

Thanks!!

Jim

Craig Smith wrote:
> Hi again Jim.
> 
> You could indeed setup a VPN connection through STN, if your running a 
> product that supports the MS VPN protocol and implementation, as far as 
> I know most of these packages are rather expensive tho.
> 
> The solution that I personally use is VNC (Virtual Network Computing)
> http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/
> Its a free program with binaries for most OS's including *nix, Windows, 
> ect ect ect. It allows a PC anywhere kind of session into PC's, and it 
> easily useable over a 28.8K modem. As for security, I quote again:
> 
> Q54 How secure is VNC? 
> Access to your VNC desktop generally allows access to your whole 
> environment, so security is obviously important. VNC uses a 
> challenge-response password scheme to make the initial connection: the 
> server sends a random series of bytes, which are encrypted using the 
> password typed in, and then returned to the server, which checks them 
> against the 'right' answer. After that the data is unencrypted and 
> could, in theory, be watched by other malicious users, though it's a bit 
> harder to snoop a VNC session than, say, a telnet, rlogin, or X session. 
> Since VNC runs over a simple single TCP/IP socket, it is easy to add 
> support for SSL or some other encryption scheme if this is important to 
> you, or to tunnel it through something like SSH or Zebedee.
> 
> SSH allows you to redirect remote TCP/IP ports so that all traffic is 
> strongly encrypted, and this can be combined with VNC. SSH can also 
> compress the encrypted data - this can be very useful if using VNC over 
> slow links. See the 'Using SSH with VNC' page. Zebedee is a similar 
> system which can be sometimes simpler to use. You can find info here. 
> 
> While we're on the subject of security, you should also be aware that 
> only the first 8 characters of VNC passwords are significant. This is 
> because the 'getpass' call used in the Unix server to read a password 
> has this restriction, and the other platforms have been made compatible 
> with this. 
> 
> Wolfram Gloger < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> has built Xvnc with the 
> TCP Wrapper library, allowing you more control over which hosts are 
> allowed to connect. See the contribs page for details. 
> 
> 
> Enjoy,
> Craig
> --
> 
> On Tue, 29-May-2001 02:39:18  
>  Jim Harris wrote:
> >I have been busy building-out my network here in my "lab" (make that 
> >read "basement"!)  I now have a Linux (RH 7.1) box I am using as my 
> >"FTP" server box, I might want to fuss with HTTP a bit - and I am going 
> >to be playing around with other Windows and Linux related things.
> >
> >In other words - having one hell of a time!
> >
> >Here's the deal:  I would like to know if there is any way I can "VPN", 
> >(or something simular) into my network - via a secure connection.
> >
> >I am -NOT- talking about "secure shell" or such-like - I want a secure  
> >way to access my entire network - in a manner simular to what M$ 
> >provides.
> >
> >1.  Does anyone have any ideas?
> >2.  Does anyone know if -STN- supports it (other than by simply opening 
> >a port to the outside world)  -Inbound- VPN masq (simular to the way 
> >-OUTBOUND- VPN masq works) would be interesting.
> >
> >Has anyone tried it?
> >
> >Any comments???
> >
> >Jim
> >
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