I did some looking today and found a couple of dummys but typical price is
$70+ each ...one was about $54 in quantities > 10... with real keyboards at
$10 each I have to agree... you could make 6-7 out of real ones or just hide
them...

from blackbox.com >>ATPS/2 Mouse
                                   AC244A
                                                    76.00  indicvates
replaces mouse and kb...
http://www.cadesigns.co.uk/dk1b.htm  has one @ $72


Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dana Trout" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 12:19 AM
Subject: Re: [STN] Keyboard Dummy Plug


> There is a commercial product available -- look at
>   http://www.vetra.com/Elimina2.htm  $49/each
>
> Black Box also made the "Keyboard Ghost" but all I can find on their
> website today is the "Mouse Ghost". It was more expensive ($79 I
> believe).
>
> A much cheaper possibility is to check the BIOS error-reporting
> settings -- many allow you to set them to ignore keyboard errors. If
> you can do that there is no cost at all!
>
> Another cheap (but somewhat ugly) solution is to take apart old
> keyboards (which are almost a dime a dozen at thrift stores) and chop
> off all the keys (they're normally-open switches, so the keyboard chip
> won't notice their non-existance), which makes a much smaller package
> than the full keyboard. But then you have to put the remainder in some
> sort of box or pot it in epoxy.
>
> You could to a Google search on "keyboard emulator" to see other
> approaches.
>
> HTH,
>
>   --Dana
>
> ----------
> From: Mike Jesch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [STN]  Keyboard Dummy Plug
> Date: Monday, February 04, 2002 3:06 PM
>
> On 4 Feb 02, at 9:34, Michael Barnes wrote:
>
> > I've got some Compaq computers donated I am planning on using as
> > firewall/gateway boxes.  One glitch I ran into is, the Compaq BIOS
> has no
> > setting to ignore the lack of a keyboard (that I can find anyhow).
> Most of
> > them are Compaq ProLinea 590s.  I don't want to leave these sit with
> a
> > keyboard attached that could lead to problems.  Does anyone know how
> to
> > build or procure a dummy plug I can insert to make the computer
> think there
> > is a keyboard attached?
>
> There was an article about this very subject in the July 2001 Nuts
> & Volts magazine.  The guy ended up building a keyless keyboard
> emulator, consisting of a small microcontroller chip, and about 5
> discrete components.  He used a PIC 16F84 and built it into a little
> perfboard gizmo.  The Nuts and Volts website is at
>
> http://www.nutsvolts.com/toc_Pages/jul01toc.htm
>
> But they don't have a full copy of the article on the site, just a
> link
> to the code for the PIC.  If you're up to doing a project like this,
> including burning the code into the PIC, I could send you more
> information on it.
>
> According to the article, it really is more than just a little dummy
> thing; it has to have at least some intelligence, since one of the
> things that occurs during the POST is a check, where the PC ROM
> is looking for particular responses from the keyboard.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
>
> Mike Jesch
>
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