We have a section in our on line catalog called MOTORS
There you can order a basic motor package, and upgrades etc.... But if you
have specific questions, it is best to just call us.
Later,
Cindy

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Fisher
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 12:00 AM
To: Robert Meier
Cc: Brian Downard Sr; shelby-dodge@imagicomm.com
Subject: Re: SD> My 87' GLH-S Shelby Nightmare Begins

You know, I could have sworn that TU, FWD Performance, and FM had 
rebuilt motors for sale on their sites.  After looking at them all, I 
don't see anything about it, except on FM's site, but they don't even 
have prices.

Robert Meier wrote:
> Brian, it sounds like the oldest trick in the book. Give you an 
> expensive price (because they really didn't want to do it) and get it 
> in to the shop if you say yes, disassemble the car and then double the 
> price to get it back together. They figure if you say yes to $3,500 on 
> a 20 year old car, you won't bat an eye at double the price. Easy 
> pickens for them. Hot rodders and restorers quit using dealers 40 to 
> 50 years ago because that is how long they have been trying to do this 
> stuff.
>
> For 7 K, I'd almost be tempted to take a week off and come do it 
> myself. They must have located some NOS parts that none of us can find 
> anymore (but of course they are actually going to use the same parts 
> you could have bought at NAPA). Best recommendation is to use 
> reputable aftermarket vendors like Forward Motion and FWD Performance 
> so the dealers can't pull this [EMAIL PROTECTED] on us. If you can get your 
> car 
> back together enough to move out of there, ask around the local clubs 
> in your area. Someone must know of a good mechanic who can rebuild 
> your car. All you need to provide is the Factory Service Manuals. Or 
> you can send your engine to one of the shops who can be trusted and 
> have it shipped back for much less than they are trying to rake you 
> over for.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Downard Sr" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <shelby-dodge@imagicomm.com>
> Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 3:29 PM
> Subject: SD> My 87' GLH-S Shelby Nightmare Begins
>
>
>> Hello everyone. It's been a while since I have posted on here. I am 
>> going to become very active on here, and other sites as well, due to 
>> the fact that I am going to become an overnight mechanic. The reason 
>> that I say so, is because Des Moines Chrysler is trying to destroy my 
>> baby.
>>
>> Here is the Story:
>> On Monday 2/19/07 I was calling around to find if a mechanic would be 
>> able to rebuild my 1987 Shelby Dodge Charger GLH-S engine back to 
>> original state. No place would be able to touch it, due to the fact 
>> of it's age. I did come across the Des Moines Chrysler in, Des 
>> Moines, IA. I asked them if they would be able to restore my engine 
>> and they said that they would be able to do so, knowing that it's an 
>> 87' Shelby Dodge Charger #324. They said the cost would be around 
>> $3,499.00 to do the job and that is w/ parts and labor. I told them I 
>> would have a tow company come and get the automobile and deliver it 
>> to them.
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday 2/20/07, I called City Wide Towing, and asked if they 
>> would be able to come and pick up my automobile and deliver it to Des 
>> Moines Chrysler and use a flatbed to do so. They said no problem. 
>> They told me that it would cost $79.50 to tow it. Which I thought is 
>> pretty good for towing.
>>
>> On Wednesday 2/21/07, I don't hear anything from Des Moines Chrysler. 
>> Starting to get worried if the automobile was delivered yet.
>>
>> On Thursday 2/22/07, I call Des Moines Chrysler, to find out if the 
>> automobile is there and what the status is. They said that it is 
>> there, and they are going to start looking at it, after lunch. I was 
>> relieved that it did arrive. They said before they start looking into 
>> it they are going to need around $1,000.00 deposit to start working 
>> on it. Which I was alright with, because it was going to come off the 
>> top of the $3,499.00 price, which would leave me around $2,499.00 
>> left to pay.
>>
>> On Friday 2/23/07, Des Moines Chrysler called me and told me that 
>> they found several other things wrong with the automobile and that 
>> it's going to cost me an additional $5,000.00 to repair. Well, I 
>> worked the night before (7:00pm to 7:00am) and was kind of out of it 
>> until that moment. They knew that that was a lot of money, so they 
>> told me to think about it and give them a call on Monday.
>>
>> On Monday 2/26/07, I haven't called Des Moines Chrysler, because I am 
>> still thinking about the idea, and what my options are.
>>
>> On Tuesday 2/27/07, this is what I call, "D" Day. Des Moines Chrysler 
>> calls me and states that they wanted to know what my decision was. I 
>> asked them what the total cost would be to rebuild the engine, and 
>> they told me that the engine would not be rebuildable. They are going 
>> to have to get a long block that is re-manufactured, from Texas. They 
>> stated that would cost me a total of a ball park figure of 
>> $6,000.00+. And for everything else included would cost a total of 
>> $7,100.00+. I stated that would be way too much for me to have to 
>> pay, unless they had payment arrangements. They said that he would 
>> need to check with his boss. He called me back with in 30 minutes. He 
>> stated that there is no payment arrangement options. I then advised 
>> Just put my Shelby back the way it was, and I will have the towing 
>> company come and get it and bring it back to me. They said that I am 
>> going to need more than the flatbed to pick it up. I asked, "why?" 
>> They said that the front wheels are not on
>> the car, nor is the shocks, the rotors, the exhaust (which is hanging 
>> by a bungee cord), and it's pretty much just a frame. Now my 
>> understanding was for them to rebuild the engine, not to tear my car 
>> apart.
>>
>> On, Wednesday 2/28/07 I tried to contact a lawyer to find out where I 
>> stand on this issue. I also contacted the attorney general. The 
>> attorney general didn't have too much to say about the idea.
>>
>> On, Thursday 3/1/07 I called Des Moines Chrysler to find out if they 
>> would be able to put the car in the condition where I can have it 
>> towed back to me on a flatbed. They said that the mechanic that was 
>> working on it wasn't in on that day and they would be able to give me 
>> a call tomorrow and let me know. Needless to say I haven't heard 
>> anything so far on Sunday 3/4/07.
>>
>> So, I am going to become an overnight mechanic and rebuild the engine 
>> myself. I am going to know all of the ins an outs of my 87' Shelby 
>> Dodge Charger's engine. This is the worst experience I have had with 
>> any company. When I am quoted $3,500 to fix something and then once 
>> it's torn apart I am told it's going to cost twice the amount is 
>> outrageous.
>>
>> So, that is why I am going to be on this list and other sites on my 
>> GLH-S. So, there will be a lot of stupid questions that I ask, please 
>> bear with me. I am learning all by myself. My goal is to have the 
>> Charger working and in perfect condition by this time in 2009.
>>
>>
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