Hugh McIntyre wrote: > Roland Mainz wrote: > > Remember your first day on a Unix machine and think about whether things > > like having no working cursor keys, history, a help system which is > > difficult to use (e.g. /usr/bin/man using /usr/bin/more) > > For some of us, there were no such things as cursor keys or history > available at all the first day we used a Unix system, working or > otherwise :) (no csh yet, no vi, etc...) > > Personally I'm OK with these changes, even the change to /bin/less, but > I'm not sure you can say that "more" is difficult to use or that "less" > is particularly easier. Less may have more features, but neither is > especially difficult.
I have two major problems with "/usr/bin/more": 1. "cursor keys" are not useable 2. /usr/bin/more is really a _bad_ choice for users in multibyte locales, e.g. ja_JP.PCK or ja_JP.UTF-8 for which Solaris ships lots of manual pages by default. The documentation folks (CC:'ing Michelle Olson <michelle.olson at sun.com> for that...) did lots of work with the translation and maintaince of the japanese manual pages are then _punished_ (together with their japanese users) by a viewer (e.g. /usr/bin/man defaults to /usr/bin/more) which doesn't work properly in such locales. In theory there is /usr/xpg4/bin/more as alternative but that misses [1] (and this choice improves the interoperabilty between Solaris and Linux, too). ---- Bye, Roland -- __ . . __ (o.\ \/ /.o) roland.mainz at nrubsig.org \__\/\/__/ MPEG specialist, C&&JAVA&&Sun&&Unix programmer /O /==\ O\ TEL +49 641 7950090 (;O/ \/ \O;)