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From: ali hassan <syedalihassan2...@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 12:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Shia Group] Fw: Humayun....please don't make us insane !
Dear Humayun,
From ur furnishing of historical points, it seems that u have not studied ur
religious history books, instead u trust in mullahs speeches, they preach same
thoughts because its not their fault, in ur madrassa syllabas system there is
very less emphisis on history, logic and philosphy, where as in shia madrassa
syllabas, said subjects have key impotance.
If we go very deep in history from different school of thoughts ur position
becomes miserable, and u people use to say! ohhh history writen by shias...
oooo this is shia lies penetrated in our books..
Come to the foundations,
1. u beleive in khilafa but unfortunatelly Hazrat abu baker and umar was not
believing in khilafa including majority of sahaba, they give Bayyat on the
basis of IJMA to avoid fitna not bcz they believe in...also many times hazrat
umar mentioned that this matter(bayyat of abu bakar) was a hasty thing, and
Allah saved us from its bad aspects, next time if anybody to do the same..kill
him
at other places he mentioned khilafa is the right of Ali a.s but due to two
things we stopped him...he is young in age and arab dont like to be Nabowat and
khilafat only in one family (banu Hashim)
2. ur khulafa many times admitted that there are many things in Quran we dont
know..and they were true (sadiq) in this statement bcz they proved it on
numerous occasions by diverting many disputes to Ali a.s for help.
even one time a woman came to hazrat umer and corrected him on the issue of haq
e meher...he thanked the woman by saying.. she saved me from hell fire.
3. They changed many things from Quran wa Sunnah started trawieh, folding hands
in namaz, three talaq in one sitting, changed wazoo(washing feet), etc
4. Always remained back side during any war thats why u cannot prove any injury
they received or they gave.
there r to many repeated facts in reliable sources which disqualify their
status as khalifa.
Now come to the next episode when khilafa changed to king and monarchy, the age
of Muawiya who snached sham(syria) from Ali a.s. here people try to portray
that there were munafeqeen between Ali a.s and muaviya to make them fight(u
recognised munafeqeen but Ali a.s not recognized their plans??
astonishing)...these people lack knowledge and wisdom.. from history especially
from the letters of Ali a.s written to muaiviya it is clear that Ali a.s was a
bitter enemy of muaviya due to his character and politics..he started abusing
of Ali a.s in juma khutba which later stopped by umer bin abdulaziz after many
years.
He gave a hard time to Imam Hassan a.s and there was no way for Imam Hassan a.s
except peace pact with him to save his shias...but muaviya did not fulfill any
condition in the peace pact and finally murdard him by the help of his
wife....people considers this pact with muaviya as validation of his character
by Imam Hassan a.s.... again very innocent and illogical and lack of knowledge.
Why shias of kufa not supported Imam Hussain A.s??????
To explain this i want to ask
Why wahabbis did not save mujaheedeen of lal masjid from army despite the fact
near islamabad in NWFP there r many armed wahabis???
Why u not saved babri masjid from destruction, u muslims r in huge population
and u have atom bomb also???
A huge staff of americans have their colonies in different cities of pakistan,
everybody knows their residential areas and offices...why u not grabbing a gun
and plan an attack on them?
Why shias of kufa not supported Imam Hussain A.s??????
* When Imam Hussain a.s confined in karbala, paths from kufa to karbala
blocked by army, yazid's army was not such foolish that open paths for shias of
kufa to join Imam Hussain a.s in karbala. Some shias succeed to join Imam
Hussain A.s from hidden paths.
* majority of shias recognized by strong intellegence network and
arrested in clashes occured before Imam Hussain A.S reached to karbala..Amir
mukhtar was one of them who took revenge after his release.
* Many shias from kufa known as "Tawaboon" took revenge after shahadat
of Imam Hussain a.s and almost all killed.
* Amir mukhtar occupied kufa and arrested main characters of karbala
and killed them and sent their heads to Imam Zain ul abideen in madina and Imam
a.s smiled and prayed for him.
* people with Imam Hussain a.s in karbala was purified shias, with
their clear links in the past with Imam Ali and Imam Hassan a.s. And who was on
the other side????? " people with clear links with muaviya and who fought
against shian e Ali A.s in saffeen and they known as shian e muaviya i.e. the
army of bannu ummaya.
Non shias role in karbala
Non shia muftian e karam in yazid's palace issued fatwa that murder of Hussain
is wajib bcz he stood against khalifatul muslimeen yazid ibn e muaviya....so
due to this fatwa non-shias clearly isolated themselves from Imam Hussain a.s
and many remained confused that Hussain a.s is right or wrong? plus non shias
consider Imam Hussain a.s as non-masoom so follow non masoom is not wajib bcz
he can be on mistake. thats why untill now non shias r not saying lanat on
yazid. in contrast shias r very clear that Imam Hussain a.s is masoom and their
is no chance of mistake, also they are clear anybody standing against Ahlulbait
a.s is wrong.
Ok if anybody claims that he is the true lover of Ahlulbait A.s then join me
and say in front of Allah
Ahlaybait a.s kay dushmanoon per lanat
Ahlaybait kay katiloon per lanat na bhejnay walon per lanat
Ahlaybait say jang karnay waloon per lanat
zulam per khamoosh rahnay waloon per lanat
if u have difficulty in believing above then it can be easily diagnosed that u
suffered from the fatal disease of Munafaqat....because u r claiming the love
with Ahlulbait A,s openly but something else in the heart....there are many
pretty excuses has been invented to hide munafaqat by deceiving ourselves.
Regards
--- On Thu, 3/28/13, Abid Hemraj <a...@rogers.com> wrote:
>From: Abid Hemraj <a...@rogers.com>
>Subject: [Shia Group] Fw: Humayun....please don't make us insane !
>To: "Tahseen Shah" <ta...@hotmail.com>, "Iftikhar Barrie"
><iftikhar.bar...@gmail.com>, "Amir Rana" <amirmr...@gmail.com>,
>sadq...@gmail.com, ksid...@msn.com, tsidd96...@aol.com, "S Turkman"
><turk...@sbcglobal.net>, "_drsidd...@aol.com" <em...@drsiddiqi.com>, "syed b
>soharwardy" <cont...@islamicsupremecouncil.com>, "Zinat Bandali"
><mohammedpband...@gmail.com>, "Zina Khan" <zina.k...@yahoo.com>, "Aeisha
>Muhammad" <aeisha_...@yahoo.com>, "Fareeda Runjanally" <faree...@hotmail.com>,
>"zehra pathan" <zehr...@hotmail.com>, ahelusu...@yahoogroups.com, "Farrukh
>Abidi" <farrukhab...@yahoo.com>, "Wila e Ahlebait" <wilaeahleb...@gmail.com>,
>shiagroup@googlegroups.com, "Zaheer Bawany" <bawanyzah...@yahoo.com>,
>zaheerhus...@gmail.com, "zaheerhusain khan" <zaheerhusaink...@yahoo.com>,
>"Syed Aelia Rizvi" <syd.al...@gmail.com>, "SYED AELIA RIZVI"
><aeliariz...@yahoo.com>, "SYED ALI KASHAN RIZVI" <kashanrizvi...@gmail.com>,
>"syed hassan mujtaba naqvi"
<hassanmujt...@hotmail.com>, "Dr. fuad H. Sheriff........USA"
<fuadja...@aol.com>, "Dr. Abdulhusain Nathani" <amnath...@comcast.net>,
dr.shakilk...@yahoo.com, "Dr.Shafique Pathan" <shafiquepat...@yahoo.com>,
drsakha...@gmail.com, drshab...@comcast.net, "syedsuleman"
<syedsulema...@gmail.com>, "akhtar syed" <smakht...@yahoo.com>, "Karamatullah
Ghori" <k_k_gh...@hotmail.com>, "MAULAN SAKHAWATHUSSEIN SAHEB"
<almahdifo...@gmail.com>, "syed farhadhusein moosavi" <syed...@yahoo.com>,
"mawlana meraj zaidi" <merajza...@yahoo.com>, "Moulana Mukhtar Abbas Vasaya"
<movas...@hotmail.com>, "maulana sadiq" <smskazm...@gmail.com>, "Syed Abidi"
<syedabidifamil...@yahoo.com>, "syed mehdi raza" <mehdirazatoro...@gmail.com>,
"Syed Jaffar" <sjaf...@sympatico.ca>, syed.aijazulla.husa...@gmail.com,
"Syed-Mohsin Naquvi" <mnaq...@yahoo.com>, "Syed Akbari"
<syedhakb...@yahoo.com>, "Syed Ali Mazhar" <samaz...@yahoo.com>,
sirshadah...@yahoo.com, "Ali Ansar Hemraj" <a...@eff.ae>,
"Anver Manekia" <h...@raha.com>, "hussein manekia" <mota...@hotmail.com>,
"Mohamed Raza Huda" <mohamedraz...@yahoo.com>, majida.asa...@gmail.com, "Mulla
Roshnali Versi" <mulla-rve...@ntlworld.com>, "Mohammed Aalam"
<aal...@yahoo.com>, "Mohammad Jeelani" <mohammed_bha...@yahoo.ca>, "Muhammad
Nazir Khaki" <nazir.kh...@gmail.com>, "Mushtaq Chaviwala" <mfc1...@yahoo.com>,
"Syed Zaidi" <syed...@hotmail.com>, "Abdallah, Anver" <an...@hemraj.com>,
"MUHAMMED RAZA KHAN" <muhammedrazak...@googlemail.com>, "Syed Husain"
<syhus...@hotmail.com>, "humayun.rana.rasheed" <humayun.rana.rash...@gmail.com>
>Date: Thursday, March 28, 2013, 9:31 PM
>
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Ebrahim Rashid
>Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 9:29 PM
>Subject: RE: Humayun....please don't make us insane !
>
>
>Salamun alaikum
>
>
>The love of the holy Prophet and his holy ahlulbayt (peace and blessings of
>Allah be them all) can never ever coexist in the minds and hearts of najis,
>impure and unclean people.
>
>
>People who claim to love the holy Prophet of Allah and love much more his
>enemies and the enemies of his descendants and their followers are nothing
>more than A 1 hypocrites.
>
>
>They are the same people who have demolished each and every Islamic heritage,
>carrying out indiscriminate killings of fellow Muslims all in the name of
>Islam.
>
>What the illegitimate children of Abu sufyan did to the ahlulbayt fourteen
>hundred years ago, today their illegitimate descendants are doing to the
>followers of the ahlulbayt.
>
>
>JUST ASK YOURSELF ONE VERY SIMPLE QUESTION.
>
>
>HOW MANY SHIAS IN ANY PART OF THE WORLD HAVE GONE OUT KILLING INNOCENT PEOPLE
>IN THE NAME OF RELIGION?
>
>
>HOW MANY SHIAS HAVE CARRIED OUT SUICIDE BOMBING OR BLOWN THEMSELVES?
>
>
>Those sworn enemies of Islam who are accusing Shias of lying and killing Imam
>Husein should be ashamed of themselves for their hypocritical behaviour.
>
>
>They perform the actions of kuffars and munafiqeen in the name of Allah and
>Islam.
>
>
>THIS IS A CLEAR SIGN OF HOW THESE WAHHABIS/YAHUDIS HAVE BEEN BRAINWASHED. THIS
>IS A CLEAR SIGN OF INSANITY AND MADNESS WHICH IS A CURSE FROM ALLAH.
>
>
>IT WILL BE MOST INTERESTING TO WATCH THE OUTCOME ON THE DAY OF JUDGEMENT OF
>YOUR ACTIONS OF ACCUSING SHIAS OF THINGS YOU HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE ABOUT AND
>CARRYING OUT ATROCITIES AGAINST THEM BECAUSE OF YOUR HATRED AGAINST THE
>AHLULBAYT AND THEIR FOLLOWERS. YOUR UNCONDITIONAL LOVE AND DEEP AFFECTION FOR
>THE SWORN ENEMIES OF THE HOLY PROPHET AND HIS AHLULBAYT AND THEIR FOLLOWERS.
>
>
>MAY ALLAH (S.W.T.) RAISE YOU WITH YOUR HEROES. MAY YOUR DESTINY BE THE SAME AS
>THEIRS AND MAY YOUR ETERNAL ABODE BE WITH THEM. AMEEN SUMMA AMEEN.
>
>
>
>
>________________________________
>Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2013 11:37:55 -0700
>From: zina.k...@yahoo.com
>Subject: Re: Humayun....please don't make us insane !
>To:
>
>You became "Ahl e Sunnat wal Jamaa" officially after giving bayah to criminal
>Muawiya who had killed your Mother....what a shame you are....did the Sh'ia
>"provoke" you to do this? She is the Mother of all believers as Quran says ALL
>wives are your believers.....then you hypcocrites give everyone the lie of the
>land and fabricate falsities against the Shia and then incite harami Kutahs to
>kill the Shias....and then you call this Islam and use shameless even the name
>of the Prophet when all along you only love the criminals of Islam who had
>rebelled against the Prophet and his Ahl al Bayt.....Shia did this and Shia
>did that as if you are all angels who have dropped from the womb of the
>heavens...get lost ! You even betrayed Umar by rejecting his compilations of
>quran....absolutely shaky and un
>
>
>
>
>>________________________________
>>From: Humayun Rasheed
>>http://us.mc1617.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=rana.humayun.rash...@gmail.com
>>Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 1:06 PM
>>Subject: Re: Humayun....please don't make us insane !
>>
>>We Ehl-e-Sunnat-wal-jamaat knew Shia so stopped Imaam Husain r.a. from
>>trusting them. But Shia the criminals provoked Yazid and Imaam Husain r.a.
>>and when Imaam Husain r.a. needed Shia they were sleeping in Kufa and in day
>>time just shouting - and that day Allah s.w.t. wrote this shouting and
>>beating on these Shia on their own hands because of their act against
>>Ehl-e-Bait r.a. Have you seen any follower of religion who beat himself with
>>his own hands?
>>When Shia provoked Ali r.a. against Muawiah r.a. - because Muawiah r.a. was
>>great Sahabi and passed time with Rasoolullah s.a.w. so he understood and
>>stopped war. Shia knew that they will never ever be successful to divide
>>Sahabah r.a. so they waited till Yazid became Caliph, and Shia played same
>>game and conspiracy worked and a new religion came into being.
>>Ehl-e-Sunnat-wal-jamaat are true followers of Ehl-e-Bait no matter what Shia
>>say, same as Muslims are true followers of Esa a.s. no matter what Christians
>>say.
>>
>>On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 7:53 PM, Zina Khan
>><http://us.mc1617.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=zina.k...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>Criminals and disdainful people should NOT even take the name of Imam Ali
>>with their potty and satanic mouths.....you killed the sons of Imam Ali and
>>you gave bayah to the killers of Bibi Aeisha and became known as
>>Sunnis...until today the Umma is in turbulence because of you children and
>>posterity of Muawiya
>>>
>>>
>>>
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