A. Shindig.apache.org will be after graduation from incubator. B. Santiago is right - site must be statically served. The amount of effort to get moin cached to survive the Apache load was significant. Apache sites aren't internet backwaters (one monthly figure i heard was 5tb/month) C. We need to use a technology that is tried and tested at Apache (or have a _very_ good reason otherwise) D. Suggestions that occur to me are Forrest, Anakia, Maven or, if you want a wiki, Confluence. E. Confluence has an auto-export plugin that exports changed pages to the filesystem. Apache has a complex set of rsyncs in place to get those pages from the Confluence box to the web box. Style is controlled by a template held within the auto-export plugin's configuration. F. If a wiki is used for the website (confluence is really the only choice), then access control lists must be used to restrict write access to those that have signed ICLAs. This means that the content can later be included within a distribution. Otherwise it couldn't. G. If Shindig wants a wiki alongside its website, both moin and confluence are available. I think I should be able to set either up.
apologies if this is terse, i'm typing it via my phone. if there re more quetions about how best to do websites at apache, I'm happy yo try to answer. regards, Upayavira - original message - Subject: Re: Website From: "Tommie Podzemski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 04/01/2008 3:37 pm 2008/1/4, Thomas David Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > I don't have any comment on the design, but "Contributors include > > Google and Ning." has absolutely no place on there. Apache projects > > are composed of individual contributors, not companies. > > Fair point Fitz. We definitely don't want to make out this is > anything other than what it is ... an open project for all > contributors. I was really just putting any old text up to fill in > the gaps :) > > I like Bruno's wiki idea and (even though it is ugly and hard to skin) > MediaWiki does tick all the boxes. I too have experience with setting > it up and running it (it's dead easy) and am happy to help/do that. > > Do we have access/rights to change: > > http://incubator.apache.org/projects/shindig.html > > Is that where we are talking about hosting whatever it is we come up > with? Or are we talking about www.shindigopensocial.org or something > similar? > > If we take the wiki approach we could just start off with the existing > text from the incubator page plus some intro text and a few links and > let it grow from there? > > T I'd say http://incubator.apache.org/shindig/ would be enough to start with. Not sure if we're allowed to host any mysql (if we're set on mediawiki) on incubator.apache.org though. But i could always host the mysqldb to start with. As Thomas pointed out, a mediawiki is dead-easy to get on the road. We're looking at 15 minutes of setup/configuration and it's done. Tommie
