Hi Kevin,

A high level overview of all the security considerations an OpenSocial
container implementer must be aware of and how Shidig plans to implement it
would be extremely helpful.

I think some of your earlier posts address the latter part to some extent.

Thanks
Chak

On 1/28/08 12:09 AM, "Kevin Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Certainly -- could you explain what parts you need clarification on? I
> probably take it for granted that I know the details of gadgets, open
> social, and shindig all very well, so you'll have to forgive me if I make
> too great of assumptions about your familiarity with these projects. (not
> taking this off list because I think it will benefit more people who are
> just observing).
> 
> ~Kevin
> 
> On Jan 28, 2008 12:05 AM, Akash Xavier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> Kevin,
>> Could u please explain your post in simpler words?
>> 
>> On Jan 27, 2008 11:31 PM, Kevin Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Right now you'd have to implement your own opensocial-0.x (recommend 0.7
>> )
>>> and drop it into the features/ directory before building.
>>> 
>>> As I've mentioned on previous threads, getting a real usable
>>> implementation
>>> of opensocial-0.6 / 0.7 that easily integrates with existing sites is a
>>> top
>>> priority for the project. Currently the closest thing that we have are
>>> copies of the references (which I believe are actually out of date --
>>> possibly pre-0.6 release).
>>> 
>>> Notable areas where work needs to be done:
>>> 
>>> - Implement opensocial-0.7 javascript to use either container mediated
>>> (call
>>> through gadgets.rpc to the parent page) or container facilitated (issue
>>> requests to some new servlet via XHR, signed using the GadgetSigner
>>> interface tokens). I'm *strongly* in favor of the second approach for
>>> performance reasons.
>>> 
>>> - Improve dependency injection points in GadgetServer and various
>> servlets
>>> so that you can load your own implementations via configuration.
>>> 
>>> To make this work on a real site, you're going to have to do the
>>> following:
>>> 
>>> 1. Implement GadgetSigner to generate an encrypted token that contains
>>> whatever you use to identify users on your site. At a minimum you should
>>> probably pass:
>>> 
>>> - The current viewer's id
>>> - The "owner" of the gadget's id
>>> - Some way to identify the gadget itself (the url should suffice)
>>> - The instance id (possibly not relevant if your site doesn't allow
>>> multiple
>>> copies of the same gadget to be installed)
>>> - An expiration date.
>>> 
>>> Since this is all very much implementation specific, I can't say what
>> the
>>> best way to pass the data for your particular site is.
>>> 
>>> 2. When generating iframes for gadgets, pass t=<value of
>>> GadgetToken.toSerialForm()> in the hash part (i.e. url=
>>> http://example.org/&up_foo=bar#t=token)
>>> 
>>> 3. Create a servlet filter so that you can pass appropriate data to the
>>> servlets (such as instances of your custom implementations of
>>> GadgetSigner,
>>> GadgetDataCache, and/or RemoteContentFetcher)
>>> 
>>> You'll probably want to get the meta data from gadgets by calling
>>> GadgetServer.process and passing the context as RequestContext.CONTAINER
>> .
>>> This will automatically provide the container side javascript you need
>> to
>>> load as well as the meta data that would normally be unavailable. If you
>>> can't actually link against the library directly in your site that
>>> generates
>>> the iframes (perhaps because you're not using one of the supported
>>> languages), you'll probably need to wait until we have implemented the
>>> JsonRpcServlet discussed here:
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SHINDIG-25
>>> 
>>> ~Kevin
>>> 
>>> On Jan 27, 2008 7:35 PM, Akash Xavier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi guys
>>>> 
>>>> I have this confusion.
>>>> Shindig can be downloaded and implemented easily. Thats fine.
>>>> But how do I connect my data to Shindig, so that when an opensocial
>>>> function
>>>> (example a person data is requested) the data is returned. How do I
>> tell
>>>> shindig that my data is here?
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Akash Manohar
>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Akash Manohar
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> 


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