I think that we need a new project for this, because it will be like a test
for the Shindig platform. Its only my opinion.
Regards!
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 10:13 AM, Chris Chabot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm not sure if i fully grasp what you suggested, or i probably failed to
> explain properly.
>
> Currently we have a sample container, which is primarily build in
> javascript/html/xml, with a few hooks in shindig to make-it-work.
>
> What I'm currently developing is a 'real site', with a basic lightweight
> mvc structure, templates, mysql database access, etc
>
> While both serve the same conceptual purpose (being a sample container),
> the scope of things and the requirements to get it working is quite
> different between the two .. one is simply served by shindig's jetty server,
> the other requires setting up a 'site' and 'database' (although the
> requirements will be very simple: mysqladmin create shindig && mysql <
> shindig, plus dump the php files in a directory and point your apache/php
> server to it).
>
> So it's not an extension to the current sample container code (the
> html/js/xml based one), but a new code base on its own, so while it's the
> same it's also quite different. Hence my question if it should be a part of
> the svn repo, and if so .. where to put it?
>
> -- Chris
>
>
> On Apr 28, 2008, at 2:18 PM, Cassie wrote:
>
> +1 on the start it as shindig. we already have a small part of this with
> > the
> > sample container code and i was hoping to extend the sample container
> > over
> > time. can you simply build more functionality into that part of shindig
> > and
> > branch later on if you find life too constraining?
> >
> > thanks.
> >
> > - cassie
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 6:09 PM, David Glazer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Seems slightly different from Caja to me -- one is related technology
> > > that
> > > will be integrated and used by many of the same 'customers'; the other
> > > is
> > > sample code showing how to be a customer. Either way, the idea of
> > > having a
> > > very rich sample container in the shindig project, both to show users
> > > how
> > > to
> > > build on shindig, and to help make sure we don't break any common
> > > container
> > > use cases, passes my Just-Makes-Sense filter also.
> > >
> > > (And, as Ropu says, "start as part of shindig" and, if necessary
> > > later,
> > > "just branch it" seems like an easy way to start.)
> > >
> > > - dG
> > >
> > > On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 4:54 AM, Ropu's iPhone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > I think it will be something like CAJA
> > > > Is part of shindig but also a separated project ,
> > > >
> > > > Perhaps we can start it as part of shindig and we its mature we just
> > > >
> > > branch
> > >
> > > > it
> > > >
> > > > My 2 cents
> > > >
> > > > Ropu
> > > >
> > > > Sent from Ropu's iPhone
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Apr 26, 2008, at 7:34, Chris Chabot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hey Guys, a question for you all.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm currently working on a example container / SNS. The main
> > > > > reason for
> > > > >
> > > > it
> > >
> > > > being that i need some small parts of the code anyhow for my work,
> > > > > and i
> > > > > thought while I'm at it, why not make a real test case for the PHP
> > > > >
> > > > shindig
> > >
> > > > gadget & social data server ... there's nothing like a 'real life'
> > > > > type
> > > > > situation to really test your code right :)
> > > > >
> > > > > The goal is not to make a complete 'open source SNS', though i
> > > > > guess it
> > > > > could serve as a base for it at some point, but more to have all
> > > > > the
> > > > >
> > > > basic
> > >
> > > > open social activities represented in it, so a social graph (with
> > > > > all
> > > > >
> > > > the
> > >
> > > > open social defined profile fields), activity streams and gadgets of
> > > > >
> > > > course
> > >
> > > > :) (Adding more functionality would be easy, but for now would take
> > > > > to
> > > > >
> > > > much
> > >
> > > > time away from my actual shindig work)
> > > > >
> > > > > Now i'll release this code as open source, since i think it will
> > > > > be
> > > > >
> > > > useful
> > >
> > > > in many ways, first of all it might serve as an example on how to
> > > > > use
> > > > > shindig in a SNS to some, or even as a basis for new sites but it
> > > > > also
> > > > >
> > > > makes
> > >
> > > > a great testbed for both us shindig server developers (since the
> > > > > java
> > > > >
> > > > and
> > >
> > > > php versions are wire format compatible you could use either to
> > > > > power
> > > > >
> > > > the
> > >
> > > > gadgets / social data part of it), could be used to show case our
> > > > > work
> > > > >
> > > > (once
> > >
> > > > we have a zone or something equally adequate to host such a
> > > > > showcase),
> > > > >
> > > > and
> > >
> > > > is probably a blessing for gadget developers too where they could
> > > > >
> > > > develop
> > >
> > > > locally and privately on their own local development SNS.
> > > > >
> > > > > So my question is, shall i release this as my own project (no
> > > > > problem, i
> > > > > have my own servers to host the pages and showcases on, and can
> > > > > put the
> > > > >
> > > > code
> > >
> > > > on google code), or would it make sense to put this under the
> > > > > 'shindig'
> > > > >
> > > > name
> > >
> > > > / and in the shindig repo and make it an 'official part of the
> > > > > shindig
> > > > > project'. I'm asking since making a demo SNS is a bit outside of
> > > > > the
> > > > >
> > > > scope
> > >
> > > > of the project definition ("shindig is an open source implementation
> > > > > of
> > > > >
> > > > the
> > >
> > > > open social specification and gadget specification", but on the
> > > > > other
> > > > >
> > > > hand
> > >
> > > > it Just-Makes-Sense(Tm) to have it in the shindig repo too :)
> > > > >
> > > > > I'd love your opinions on this.
> > > > >
> > > > > -- Chris
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
>