Hey Neo,

To be honest we have strayed from the 'shindig development' into 'general software engineering concepts" a long time ago. While i am always happy to help people out, it's starting to go to the general support side a bit to much, and this is after all the 'shindig development list', so i would like to try to keep things on topic a bit here; We've spammed the list more then enough already.

If you have problems with jQuery, they have some wonderful forums and mailing lists of their own.. The same goes for gadget development (this is about shindig, the rendering server .. and not about gadget development), there are a lot of resources on the various container's sites (hi5, myspace, imeem, etc), and howto's (check the various gadget/opensocial/orkut/etc blogs). They might be a better resource and more fitting for these kinds of questions.

Next to that, as a general rule of thumb when your asking questions on a mailing list or forum, it creates good karma when you show that you have tried things, read the documentation, and tried to find things out your self in general .. If an example about orkut fails, but you did nothing to try to configure your local java shindig server to have ssl keys, then of course it is going to fail ... just posting that fact won't make people jump to help you. If however you showed what readme's you read, what mailing list archives and source code you went through and generally made an effort, then people will most likely feel much more inclined to help (after all why should they put in an effort when you obviously don't want too?)

Sorry if i sound harsh saying these things, but i thought an honest answer would help you more then just silence.

        -- Chris

On Jun 12, 2008, at 4:37 PM, Neo Anderson wrote:

All my pages are of PHP and they need SESSION values for any transaction. If I use oAuth, can I create a session there and use it? Or any other way?



On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 4:17 PM, Chris Chabot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hey Neo,

Welcome to the world of gadget development :-) There's a lot of resources and examples out there of how to write this, they might give you a bit of a better overview of how to develop gadgets in the open social kind of way.

Normally speaking gadget writers don't have access to either the container,
nor the shindig server, so their server is on a 3rd domain ...

Now Sessions are especially bad since the same gadget can be on different persons pages, one for me == viewer == owner, but also on your friend's page (same gadget, same browser, same session cookie... however a different gadget with different info.. woops!) Next to that huge problem, the proxy
server also cache's information (use the REFRESH_INTERVAL param for
makeRequest to control for how long btw), and dynamic sessions + caching proxies = bad :) (and yes you really want to have caching, since it saves your behind when you just made a popular app on orkut, myspace and hi5 and your servers would crumble if you served all the page hits all by your self). So thats 2 very big reasons not to use sessions in this context.

So what you would do is that if you need specific information, in the
social setting this will be related to the Viewer ID, or the Owner ID, and
those can be provided in a secure, verified fashion by making signed
requests..

There's a how-to-do-this from the gadget point of view at:

http://code.google.com/p/opensocial-resources/wiki/OrkutValidatingSignedRequests

And for creating certificates on php shindig's side read:
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/shindig/trunk/php/certs/README

After you follow those steps, the public certificate for your shindig
server is available at http://<your.shindig>/public.crt which you can then use in the client side to validate the requests, and verify the owner and
viewer id ... and all your logic you kind of hang of of those id's


On Jun 12, 2008, at 10:20 AM, Neo Anderson wrote:

Chris, I got another problem here.

Problem is my container is at port 80. Server is at port 8080. Here, I am able to send Ajax requests from the XML file(gadget) to files at port 80(container) without any problems. The files on port 80 are (PHP files) using sessions and based on these sessions. But the problem is as the makeRequest uses proxy, request to that server page goes from port 8080
and
session is created for localhost:80, so session doesn't exist for
localhost:8080. How can I solve this problem?


On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 5:11 PM, Neo Anderson <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

Yes, Thank you.




On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 2:25 PM, Chris Chabot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

try:

<?php
echo json_encode($_REQUEST);


i think that will fix a lot of your problems right there :P

    -- Chris


On Jun 11, 2008, at 8:59 AM, Neo Anderson wrote:

<?php

json_encode($_REQUEST);
?>

I am getting response as below:

throw 1; < don't be evil'

{"http://localhost/makeRequestTest.php":{"body":"\r\n","rc":200}}








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