Hello All, On Wed, Apr 08, 2015 at 09:51:07AM +0800, Andy Xie wrote: > currently, there are some docker container in dockerhub. Here is the url: > https://registry.hub.docker.com/search?q=shinken
nice to know, thanks. > > still issue on debian (I didn't test centos). But the Travis part is ok. > > > >> But I have two comments about all of this: > >> > >> - BETA tags seem to be useless, otherwise someone would have reported > >> this bug earlier... > >> > >> Sad but true. don't expect people to test a beta (unless they are core > > dev). Even the test level is quite low on RC. It's mainly on few days after > > the release that we have the most bug ticket. > > > >> > >> - Also, I think we don't use setuptools as we should. If you look at > >> what ansible/salt do, they don't ship any files outside /usr/local/ > >> folder > >> (using ie: sudo pip install salt). I didn't find any python software > >> which > >> copy configuration files in /etc/ or makes some chown during the > >> installation (pip install ...). That are exactely the issues I saw also while trying to debianize shinken in the past. With a well written setup.py you can: - install in your home directory - run "python setup.py --command-packages=stdeb.command debianize" to build a .deb at any time. > >> I feel like pip is made to install libs more than full software > >> > >> Yes, the whole python ecosystem was done for libs, not tools :( Not familiar to this, but read about a month ago (from a french guy btw): Did the wheel format bring any improvement in this area ? > > In the next years, I think docker-like ship will be the default (think > > about docker-like plugins! no more system/python/perl lib issue ^^), and > > users won't even have to mix local system and applications. And they won't > > even care where it's installed in the container (as it's a black box and it > > won't break their system). Not so shure about this - you need still a good base distribution maintained by trustfull people with long term support. > > All we need for this are (easier) orchestration tools and more powerful Better system administration tools - salt is an improvement in this area, but there is much room left in this area. But that will need time, so this is relying on to be written software... > > container monitoring (currently it's not so natural to monitor containers > > as they can spawn quickly). New tasks for shinken ;-) > > It can be docker or another container solution, but as it can save a lot > > of time to admins to install/link new tools, I think it will be really > > asked in production, and not just a dev playground tool ^^ That is also my feeling, while the classical distribution systems will be used also - at least during the next years. One plus I see there is also the keeping of record of configuration of packages you installed in the past in a cheap way. But just my 2pence after Easter holidays, thanks for your work and greetings Hermann -- Netzwerkadministration/Zentrale Dienste, Interdiziplinaeres Zentrum fuer wissenschaftliches Rechnen der Universitaet Heidelberg IWR; INF 368; 69120 Heidelberg; Tel: (06221)54-8236 Fax: -5224 Email: hermann.la...@iwr.uni-heidelberg.de ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=VA_SF _______________________________________________ Shinken-devel mailing list Shinken-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/shinken-devel
