Hi Alex,

I don't think the mailing lists support attachments.  Can you show us
in a wiki page? (The wiki supports attachments).

- Les

On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Salazar, Alexander
<[email protected]> wrote:
> I'd like to get an opinion on this Maven site how you'd like to move forward 
> so that I can starting working on the Shiro site and web documentation.
>
> Since I'm new to Maven, I took sometime this weekend to play with it and its 
> site plugin.  Not sure if this project ever used it before but its impressive 
> how easy it makes building documentation into a site.
>
> Though I'm still not sure of the pros and cons for a wiki primary site, I 
> built out a basic maven-based primary site for shiro and submit to you these 
> pros/cons.
>
> Pros
> 1. Build many of the pages needed directly from your pom
> 2. Easy to keep documentation linked and synced
> 3. All the content would be in your src directory under site-- it would all 
> be in one place
> 4. Templates/Skins are easy to build (kinda) and easy to apply throughout the 
> site
> 5. Easy to layout like other Apache projects which will lend 
> easy-of-navigation and more credibility to the site.
>
> Cons
> 1. Unique formatting sytanx for pages and skins (APT, FML, Velocity, etc)
> 2. Not as malleable as HTML and CSS
> 3. Not as easy to edit content as a wiki
> 4. To see any change to the site, the whole thing needs to be rebuilt--  or 
> so it seems.
>
> Attached's a screenshot of the basic site using the basic skin.
>
> -Alex
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Salazar, Alexander [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 2:10 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Shiro API Documentation
>
> I'd be happy to help with the site but I'm not clear on the value of a maven 
> site compared to the wiki as the main site.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
> Behalf Of Les Hazlewood
> Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 11:59 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Shiro API Documentation
>
> I personally like the idea of using the wiki as our primary content
> mechanism, but I would like it to look better.  I understand that's
> not difficult to do - we'd just need to apply a site template.  Alex,
> is this something you'd be interested in helping with?
>
> But let's say that we have the wiki exporting properly - what is the
> best way to reference build artifacts and static resources from within
> the wiki (like the JavaDocs)?  Would we just export the site wherever
> we want and then link to it from within the wiki?  Where would the
> physical files reside?
>
> - Les
>
> On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 1:59 PM, Craig L Russell <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> On Sep 4, 2009, at 7:26 AM, Les Hazlewood wrote:
>>
>>> Sure, I think that's a good idea.
>>>
>>> Mentors - where can this site be hosted and how do we automate the
>>> push to that location?
>>
>> The project needs to decide whether to publish the Maven-generated site as
>> "The Shiro Site", or whether to use the confluence wiki as the official
>> site.
>>
>> The place to publish the result is http://incubator.apache.org/shiro
>>
>> Look at http://incubator.apache.org/ki/ for what is currently being done.
>>
>> Once the project decides on the strategy for generating content,
>> infrastructure can help with the mechanical details of automatically
>> generating and pushing the site live.
>>
>> Craig
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Les
>>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Kalle Korhonen
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 12:23 AM, Salazar,
>>>> Alexander<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Even though a 1.0 has not yet been released, I think it would be helpful
>>>>> to get to-date Shiro API documentation online and available.
>>>>> According to Les, "Maven auto-generates not just the API documentation,
>>>>> but an entire site.  However, we've only been using the wiki thus far.  We
>>>>> would have to get the auto-export of this generated documentation set up
>>>>> based on the automated build process."
>>>>>
>>>>> What would be the best way to go about this?  Do you agree that it would
>>>>> be valuable prior to the 1.0 release?
>>>>
>>>> The best way would be to publish the Maven site (it includes the
>>>> javadocs by default). I already had a thread on this topic, see "Plans
>>>> to publish javadocs & Maven site continuously/nightly?". The question
>>>> Les had whether there were any guidelines regarding publishing the
>>>> documentation while a project is still in incubator but no responses
>>>> (though I know at least CXF was publishing all docs while in incubator
>>>> so I don't think it's an issue). Once we know *where* we could publish
>>>> the site, we could set up a Hudson job and then incrementally improve
>>>> the contents.
>>>>
>>>> Kalle
>>>>
>>
>> Craig L Russell
>> Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://db.apache.org/jdo
>> 408 276-5638 mailto:[email protected]
>> P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!
>>
>>
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