I just found out that cairo has a skia backend, I had not noticed before. Maybe 
porting a minimal cairo version to android could be done after all, though 
probably not so easily...


"architetto francesco fantoni <hva - hermanitos verdes architetti>" 
<[email protected]> ha scritto:

>Some very early, lazy and useless notes and suggestions about a possible
>port of shoebot to android.
>
>With the development of the scripting layer for android going on
>( http://code.google.com/p/android-scripting/ ) that brings a functional
>python environment, I started to figure out whether it is going to be
>possible someday to have shoebot working on google's mobile os.
>Actually I can't imagine no real use or need, let's say it's just for
>fun ;)
>
>obviously cairo has not been ported to android, and probably never will
>(way too heavy and complex),
>and as shoebot is cairo based, a port would probably require the cairo
>canvas to be replaced by something else.
>It seems android uses skia ( http://code.google.com/p/skia/ ) as low
>level library for 2D graphics, it is open source and I think it could
>replicate the basic functions of cairo, but skia api is not even exposed
>through NDK and, more important, at present it has no python bindings,
>though it seems it is in their roadmap.
>I suppose a lot of things would be rather hard to re-implement with skia
>(e.g. fonts, images, etc.)
>
>Another option I thought of could be openvg
>( http://www.khronos.org/openvg/ ).
>The most complete open source implementation I know of is ShivaVG
>(http://sourceforge.net/projects/shivavg/). It's built on top of OpenGL,
>and a port to android, though not yet existing, could be done using
>OpenGL ES, and therefore being hardware accelerated, that's not bad.
>I tried an attempt of porting it using android NDK, but the lack in GLES
>of some GL attributes implies patching the code and rewriting parts of
>it in order to use OpenGL ES, and obviously it's a task far too complex
>for me. 
>There is a commercial openvg implementation called Amanith
>(http://www.amanith.org/project.html). which has already an experimental
>port to android
>(http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.android.ndk/3657) that I
>was able to run as simple test on my phone (but as I said it is
>commercial).
>The nice aspect is that it already exists a project that provides python
>bindings for both ShivaVG and Amanith vg
>(http://code.google.com/p/pyopenvg/) though I must admit I have not
>tested it yet.
>
>I'm sure there are other smarter or simpler possibilities for replacing
>cairo on android that I didn't think of.
>
>All of the shoebot gui of course would need a rewrite as well, as of
>course there won't be a gtk environment, but simple gui with python is
>already possible on android, so I suppose that as long as the scripting
>layer is further developed, more complex python programs can really be a
>possibility on android.
>
>Other non-pure-python modules can be ported to android already (PIL
>maybe?) but I must admit it's not a trivial task at all.
>
>best, francesco
>
>
>
>
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