Well said Mark!
I used Mac's for years in my music programming and still have them for
that including one of the old Mac Plus (pumped up in it's day) computers. I
ran my forums with them and never had any problems with the machine or the
operating systems.
Applications: Now THAT's another story! Everything for Mac was expensive
as hell! My newest Mac could run anything that a PC could! ( Sales Pitch )
The little details they didn't tell me was how much memory I would have to
add, how much software I would have to buy, and how cumbersome the whole
process would be! You'll never know how frustrating it can be until you own
a Mac and every little program, gadget, or freeware, that all your friends
are raving about, won't run on the Mac! I finally upgraded my wife's PC and
took her old one and have never been sorry! ( Except for the Blue Screens of
Death! )
This may be a bad analogy but years ago I owned a video rental store. At
that time there were two formats. BETA and VHS. I live in high electronic
technology area where most of the EE's claimed that BETA was by far the
better system! We carried both formats in MOST of our video rentals. ( Not
all were available in BETA) Even though BETA may have been the better
system, VHS had the bigger industry support and the result was BETA went
away totally! I found myself in the same situation with MAC! I had thousands
of dollars in music software for the Mac that I didn't want to purchase over
again for PC so bought a newer Mac to replace my old Mac Plus! Only to find
out after I got it home that none of the old software supported the newer
operating system! I was told that the new Mac would run all this software
which was true. IF! I upgraded all of it to the newer operating system
versions. ($$$$$$) Buyer Beware!
This story has many chapters but feel I've overstayed my welcome with
this one already so will just stop! Anyone that wants to hear more tales of
woe in this regard, feel free to email me directly.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Ed J.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark A. Patton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 6:45 PM
Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Not golf - computers
> I see a lot of positive Mac responses, and I have nothing against Mac
> (use to have one for a while). But the biggest question you need to ask
> yourself is:
>
> What am I going to use this box for? You got a real business and running
> a financial application? Realistically not on Mac you are. Needing to
> set up web server and application server to enable your database so that
> you can book real time orders dependent upon your supply chain.
> Realistically not on Mac are you. Developing a golf app you want to
> share/sell to your peers that is web enabled, and want to keep licensing
> costs to a minimum (ie: free databases, etc). Realistically, not on Mac
> are you.
>
> Let's face it, its the applications, not the box itself, which dictates
> the value you get from a computer. I know for what I use a computer for,
> Mac isn't an option as there are no applications available. I get the
> "graphics" speech at time, but lets face it, if you are doing serious
> graphics work (say using Lightwave) when was the last Mac release? It is
> much more supported in MS and Linux as well as flavors of UNIX (IRIX).
>
> Even the major studios don't use it. It use to be that IRIX and
> DigitalUNIX (now Tru64UNIX) were the ones, but there is a stronger
> influence of MS and Linux. (As far as Linux, imagine being able to
> create a large cluster (Beowulf) with no additional licensing costs and
> process your rendering needs in 1/4th the time. There is value in
> reduced time to market.)
>
> Again not trying to slam Mac (remember I use to own one), its just that
> you should do your homework on what you need it to do before you make
> the purchase.
>
> Even Apple doesn't use their stuff to run there business.
>
> Mark
>
> Bruce Taylor wrote:
>
> > RK, go with the Mac, you won't be sorry. Bruce
> >
> >> Cub, XP didn't come out until about 6 months after I got the new
> >> puter. 38.7 GB HD, 384 MB RAM, 1.25 GB Processor. $1400.00
> >> w/no programs except Windows ME. Apple tells me they can build
> >> me a better machine for about the same money, 60 GB HD, 256 RAM, 2.0
> >> GB Processor, 6 USB ports. PLus all the programs, Word Processor,
> >> Spread Sheet, Access, Photo, etc, etc. For an extra $100.00 I can
> >> have the RAM increased to 512 MB.
> >
> >>
> >
> >> RK
> >
> >>
> >
> >> Manufacturer's of World Class Golf Club Repair Equipment
> >
> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >> -------Original Message-------
> >
> >>
> >
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >> Date: Sunday, August 18, 2002 04:05:52 PM
> >
> >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >> Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Not golf - computers
> >
> >>
> >
> >> RK,
> >
> >>
> >
> >> Sounds like they blew a little smoke. I have a 1GB processor and
> >> only 256mb of RAM. XP runs on it without problems, so far.
> >
> >>
> >
> >> Cub
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >>
> >> From: Richard Kennedy
> >>
> >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>
> >> Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2002 5:49 AM
> >>
> >> Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Not golf - computers
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Mark, I've got ME because when I had this machine built
> >> they told me I had to have it because of the size of my
> >> processor, 1.25 GB. As soon as the market gets back to
> >> just where it was two years ago it's "GOODBYE" PC "HELLO
> >> APPLE"
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> RK
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Manufacturer's of World Class Golf Club Repair Equipment
> >>
> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>
> >> -------Original Message-------
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>
> >> Date: Saturday, August 17, 2002 10:20:27 PM
> >>
> >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>
> >> Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Not golf - computers
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ME is the devil seed. The worst of every kernel and more.
> >> Honestly, for home use, I would say 98SE or W2K for the
> >> Windows
> >> platforms.
> >>
> >> Mark
> >>
> >> Steve \"Cub\" Culbreth wrote:
> >>
> >> > ME finally killed my machine. I'm on XP Pro now and
> >> feeling much
> >> > better. Although it is a bit of a learning curve. Cub
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: Richard Kennedy
> >> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> > Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2002 2:33 PM
> >> > Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Not golf - computers
> >> >
> >> >
> >> Al, don't get ME. My sister-inlaw is a puter
> >> programer/ miss puter fix-it for a major computer outfit
> >> and she told me that they have taken ME off ALL of their
> >> customers units and replaced it free with either
> >> Win/Plus or XP. Guess what I got with my new puter,
> >> you guessed it "ME". Apple here I come, as soon as
> >> the markets come back that is. RK Manufacturer's of
> >> World Class Golf Club Repair
> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> -------Original Message-------
> >>
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Date: Saturday, August 17, 2002 05:26:35 PM
> >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Subject: ShopTalk: Not golf - computers
> >> Techies,
> >> I used win95 on old machine and had installed win95
> >> "plus". Liked the
> >> extra features and games. Now new puter has win2k pro.
> >> Can't find a
> >> "plus" package nor a game pack for it. Any suggestions?
> >> Does the XP
> >> version work ok on 2k? Tia.
> >>
> >> Al
> >>
> >>
> >> .
> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >> .
> >>
> >> [Untitled]
> >>
> >>
> >
> >> [Untitled 1]
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
>
