Bernie, Royce, Dr. Voo,

Thanks for the backgrounds.  It answered a question I have regarding how
do you start into clubmaking and leave the nasty cut and clue stigma
behind.

After hearing some of the over the top criticisms of the beginning
clubmaker, I was wondering what is the appropriate way to go about
becoming a legitimate clubmaker.  The obvious answer is to go to the
schools, leave your wife, family, and employment behind in search of
knowledge.  Sounds like some sort of cult.

Actually, I was interested in something a little more practical.  Your
stories helped a ton, and I think maybe it is O.K. to be a hobbyist
enjoying the opportunity to gain a little knowledge and have some fun.

Thanks,

Brian

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Royce Engler
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 7:11 AM
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Subject: RE: ShopTalk: Long Drive swing...was Selling it


The autobiography was worth the read.

I played golf when I was in high school, never good enough to make the
team,
but played every day during the summers trying to get better.  Had a set
of
PowerBilt woods and irons, off the rack, and tough to play.  Couldn't
afford
many lessons, and was too shy to ask the pros at the muni for help.
Went
off to  the Naval Academy, left my clubs behind, my dad sold them, and
found
other interests, scuba diving, then hunting and fishing and woodworking.
Over the next 30 years I played golf occasionally at company outings,
with
rented clubs, but never got into it.  Also spent weekends at soccer
fields
and also later at high school football fields spending "quality time"
with
my son.  As he approached high school graduation, we were looking for
other
things to do together, and at a party I met a guy who said we ought to
try
golf.  Told me that with the new "game improvement" clubs, and better
teaching techniques, you could be playing enjoyable golf in a short
period
of time.  Then I played with a couple of friends from work who were golf
nuts, and promptly got hooked.

Being a little more financially able to afford both lessons and clubs, I
vowed that I was going to do it right.  Of course, my athletic son
picked up
the first club he saw and hit it a mile.  Next thing you know, I'm
getting
fitted for clubs by the pro and he says those Titleist irons can be
custom
fit for oh, say, $1200.   A friend of mine suggested going to Golfsmith
and
building my own clubs, and I have a shop full of woodworking gear, so I
turned into a cut'n'gluer.  Then my engineering background kicked in,
and I
started asking questions about how golf clubs worked and how I could
make
mine work better for me.  Started reading and studying about club
design,
then Amoco's management sold out to BP and I had a severance package to
work
with.  Signed up with Golfsmith for all the courses in Austin,  got
certified by GCA, found out about PCS, joined PCS, met Dave Haude and
promptly apprenticed myself to him to learn how to fit and build quality
clubs, and have been running a part time business ever since.  I set up
a
web page and do some sales over the internet, but mostly use it as a
referral tool.  I still have a "day job", but it is consulting and
representing software companies, so I can schedule things pretty much
when I
want to.  I have a fairly small clientele, mostly by word of mouth, I
charge
premium, but not outrageous prices, and I tell people up front that I
use
only the top component brands and charge accordingly.

I get a lot of satisfaction out of helping people play better golf
through
improvements in their equipment.   I get a WHOLE LOT OF SATISFACTION if
the
person I help is me.  That's my story and I'm stickin' to it. <GRIN>

Royce

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bernie Baymiller
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 10:21 PM
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Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Long Drive swing...was Selling it


Royce,

Got involved in that autobiography thing and didn't get to answer your
post.
Will try again in the morning when I can write another epistle, as Dr.
Voo
calls it, on the subject.  Bet you can't wait. :-)

Bernie
Writeto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

----- Original Message -----
From: "Royce Engler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 3:03 PM
Subject: RE: ShopTalk: Long Drive swing...was Selling it


> Bernie...could you summarize your advice for swing modifications for
folks
> switching to long drivers?  I saw you mention that once before, but
forgot
> to ask you about it.
>
> Thanks!!!
> Royce
>
>
>
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