RE: ShopTalk: WHERE IS TOM WISHON???

[Tom Wishon]

JIM: You shook me out of my shell here so since you asked about the P-Series wedges, I would be happy to offer some info.   Back when I was at GS and the company bought Snake Eyes, the main reason I jumped in and re-designed the forged wedges was because the existing forging dies were in such bad shape from overuse that they could not be used anymore to produce a quality piece.  SE had made so many wedges over the years and had never taken the time to re-work the dies or surface treat them to reduce wear over time.  So since the recent SE wedges made with worn tooling were not very good, they could not be used as a model for the new tooling.  Thus since all new tooling had to be made, I had to build new models and start over from scratch on these.    Anyway, when it comes to head design, I like to think that I learn from previous designs and incorporate what I learn in other models to come.  In the case of the P-Series, the goal was to make a family of wedges that would be like a forging in all ways from metal softness to bendability to nickel chrome plated, but without the higher price tag that has to go along with a real forging.   So that meant using a very soft stainless alloy in an investment cast tool and dong the plating in the finishing operations.  A major design factor became the reduction of the bounce sole angle under the heel area of the sole, which came because I had seen so many wedges over the years that looked great and set up great in the square face position, but when you rolled them open to hit a cut shot or similar type of higher finesse shot, the leading edge stayed well up in the air because the bounce made the sole sit on its trailing edge.  So in all of the PSeries models, I made the tooling models with their chosen bounce over the area of the sole from toe side to just on the heel side of the center, and then reduced it through the heel area.   Thus when you play the shot with a square face or slightly open face, you still get the full benefit of the sole angle, but when you roll the face more open for finesse shots, the leading edge stays down, thus reducing the chance of skulling the ball on such shots.  The stainless alloy is the same hardness as a 1035-1045 carbon steel in the P-Series and with the NI/Cr plating, the heads could be confused for a forging.    So that’s the story!   Thanks for the chance to mention that, TOM W   -----Original Message----- From: Jim & Ivette [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 12, 2004 6:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ShopTalk: WHERE IS TOM WISHON???   I was looking at Wishon P series wedges and wondering if they stack up to the forged snake eyes wedges. How 'bout it Tom? ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Svec To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 12, 2004 3:54 PM Subject: Re: ShopTalk: used clubs   Could be Golfsmith as they buy used stuff.     ----- Original Message ----- From: tflan To: ShopTalk Sent: Monday, January 12, 2004 1:42 PM Subject: ShopTalk: used clubs   Hi;   Our club pro has a couple of used clubs he's trying to get rid of. He told me he knew of a website company that bought used (but nearly new) golf clubs that he dealt with a few years ago, but has since lost the name and address. He's not trying to sell the stuff to anyone individually, he's just trying to find which company it was.   Any ideas - other than ebay?   Thanks   TFlan