Hi Jen, Nice to know you are still hanging around at ShopTalk! You are correct on the posting issue. My club requires you to turn in the scorecard. If you have not adjusted your score correctly they do it for you and you get a nice note that explains how to adjust your scores. They also make sure all the scores get posted, even if your score was on someone else's card that gets turned in. You can post away scores online, but you have to turn in the card when you get back. We still get some baggers, but not as many as we used to. When the baggers show up for money games, nobody asked them what their handicap is, just how many stroke they will get or have to give to play in the group. If they don't like the number they can find another group to play with. George Huson ByGeorge Custom Clubs
--- On Thu, 8/6/09, Jen Kuntz <j...@gtagolfers.com> wrote: From: Jen Kuntz <j...@gtagolfers.com> Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Handicap To: ShopTalk@mail.msen.com Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 6:57 AM I haven't posted in years but this thread has held my interest. I've never belonged to a private club, I've been a public player with a handicap for about 15 years. I think overall the handicap system is fairly effective, and like most things its the bad apples spoiling the lot for the majority of us that know and play by the rules. The weakness of the handicap system is not the way a club/course is set up (tees forward/back etc.) but it's mostly human issues. I think Don's post hits one major problem on the head. A little education would go a long way, particularly around the equitable stroke control. I would like to see the systems force people to post hole by hole scores since the system could then calculate ESC by itself. People could still cheat of course but at least even inflating their scores the ESC score would still be the basis for handicap. I would love to see more basic education available to players - basic or common rules that are often misunderstood and how to adjust your score to post it. I play with a lot of friends, none of whom have a handicap nor do they want one. I don't play anyone for money unless I've seen them play before to know their ability (and truthfulness on the course). I also ignore my friends when they tell me how they just broke 80, 90 or whatever, when I know they play mulligans at will and don't know how to deal with lost balls & hazards properly! Jen Don M wrote: > I've belonged to 3 clubs. In each one, members entered their own scores, and > there was never any effort to police the system. No education was given to > the golfers about score entry either. It was all totally self-service. If > someone wanted to sandbag, they could. The clubs didn't do any handicapped > tourneys, so it never really came up in a setting where the club could do > something about it. > > I think this is fairly common. That's why I think the handicap system is > untrustworthy. > > -Don -- Shoptalk ** Sponsored by the new Aldila Voodoo. Learn more at http://aldilavoodoo.com/
