Mike Purnell wrote:

>Not only is this not shorewall related, but you really don't give enough
>information to solve your problem.

I know, it's hard to know where to balance being too terse, and 
giving too many irrelevant details :-(

>What else is on the router?

Nothing (apart from Shorewall that is). It will NFS export a 
directory containing rrd databases of it's logs.


>What kind of shaping are you trying to do? What software are you using for the
>shaping and what is the underlying operating system?

The "wondershaper" config using HTB from the LARTC (15.8.3 on here 
http://lartc.org/howto/lartc.cookbook.ultimate-tc.html). It's started 
from Shorewall vi the tcstart file.

Debian Etch 386


>It seems like you ought to be able to do this with the hardware you 
>already have... if you have plenty of ram and the software 
>configuration is right.

The 'new' box I built I would have expected to cope, but I suspect 
that one of the NICs may have something to do with it - it's not one 
I would have chosen (sorry, can't remember which one now, I'm at home 
and the box is at work and not accessible - could be an RTL8139) but 
this was (at the time) a zero budget job ! I should have access to an 
Intel NIC to replace it with next week. One thing that makes me 
suspicious is that if I load up the system and then try to copy a 
large file off it with SCP then it kernel panics - and it appears to 
be related to interrupts in the NIC driver. The base machine is a 
recycled server with Intel server board in it, a Pentium III 1GHz, 
512M RAM.


The 'old' box seems to handle 2mbps without any problem - that's why 
I'm surprised at having so much trouble with 6mbps. The old box sits 
there at 98% idle, except when drawing graphs, some of which can take 
several seconds of 100% processor utilisation to create. It also runs 
Nagios and monitors about a 1000 services - one of the reasons for 
building a new box is to split the routing and monitoring functions.


Temporarily I've cloned the setup onto another box, this has dual 
quad core 2GHz processors - I suspect the multiple cores don't help 
when the kernel is spending so much time in low level stuff like 
shovelling packets about. I'm told that these don't have 4off 2GHz 
cores, but more likely 4off 500MHz cores adding up to 2GHz - sounds 
'iffy' to me but I've not kept up with details like this for some 
years.

This bigger box is  Dell with dual embedded NICs (btx driver) which 
can shift the packets AND count them, but still can't manage 
wirespeed if I turn on the shaping (and yes I HAVE set the shaping 
speeds so they shouldn't be limiting the rate (yet) !)

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