Shotwell doesn't currently have a notion of an export target, i.e. exporting 
for a specific program such as Digikam or Picasa.  We could conceivably add 
that, but it would be really nice if we could converge on a single convention 
that would work across all cooperating programs so that users wouldn't have to 
worry about that.

adam

On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Joseph Bylund <[email protected]> wrote:
Adam, 

Would it be possible to just pick one of the two conventions for local images, 
and then possibly reverse the convention on the exported photo depending on the 
target of the export? 

-Joe 

On 09/17/2012 01:49 PM, Adam Dingle wrote: 
> Luc, 
> 
> thanks for the patch. We've spent a fair amount of time at Yorba thinking 
> about which metadata fields to write titles to. Unfortunately different 
> programs use these fields in different ways. See the tables at 
> 
> http://redmine.yorba.org/projects/shotwell/wiki/PhotoTags 
> 
> If we don't write to Iptc.Application2.Caption, then some programs (most 
> notably Picasa) will not be able to read titles exported from Shotwell. On 
> the other hand, some Apple programs (iPhoto and Picasa) use 
> Iptc.Application2.Caption to store descriptions, so as you pointed out we 
> could clobber those when writing. I don't see any ideal solution here at the 
> moment. 
> 
> We generated the tables on the wiki page above by testing various programs a 
> couple of years ago. It would be interesting to refresh those tables to see 
> if programs' behavior has changed. I really hope that different programs can 
> converge on a single metadata tag for storing captions and another for 
> descriptions. Xmp.dc.title and Xmp.dc.description would be good candidates 
> for this. 
> 
> adam 
> 
> On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 4:03 PM, Luc More wrote: 
> Hi Adam, 
> 
> The new build worked fine, thanks for the quick reaction. 
> 
> Then I patched the following because I would like shotwell to leave the 
> Caption tag alone when setting the Picure Title (I use Caption with other 
> programs for a long description on some photos). Eventually I'd like shotwell 
> to handle both fields but that would be a much heavier change. Initial 
> testing shows that it works well in my workflow (e.g. Flickr Uploader can set 
> both fields on my uploads -- not if I use shotwell's plugin though). 
> 
> Thanks for this new shotwell. With this patch I'll be able to test much more 
> extensively by using shotwell as my main photo management application, now 
> that I'm confident it won't overwrite this Caption field. 
> 
> So far I've only done limited testing but had no problems. 
> 
> 
> --- shotwell/src/photos/PhotoMetadata.vala 2012-09-17 00:14:09.933142226 
> +0200 
> +++ shotwell-0.13-patched//src/photos/PhotoMetadata.vala 2012-09-15 
> 22:25:22.126927218 +0200 
> @@ -800,7 +800,7 @@ 
> private const string IPHOTO_TITLE_TAG = "Iptc.Application2.ObjectName"; 
> private static string[] STANDARD_TITLE_TAGS = { 
> - "Iptc.Application2.Caption", 
> +// "Iptc.Application2.Caption", 
> "Xmp.dc.title", 
> "Iptc.Application2.Headline", 
> "Xmp.photoshop.Headline" 
> 
> De : Adam Dingle 
> À : Luc More 
> Cc : "[email protected]" 
> Envoyé le : Dimanche 16 septembre 2012 21h06 
> Objet : Re: [Shotwell] Build error 0.13 
> 
> Luc, 
> 
> The build was broken - sorry about that. I've just committed a fix, so you 
> might want to try again. 
> 
> adam 
> 
> 
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