It can. If tags are written out to the photo files and the database is
corrupted or deleted, it will import those tags when the photo is added
to the new database. Are you seeing something different?
-- Jim
On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 2:29 AM, Nigel Dodd <[email protected]> wrote:
I am confused. If shotwell stores things like tags in metadata, why
can it not recover the tags when it messes up its database?
On 14 May 2013 19:44, Jim Nelson <[email protected]> wrote:
We have thought about this, although we've not gone into great
detail about it on the wiki. XMP would be the right way to do this,
as it allows for user extensions. It would be *best* if there was a
standard way to save transformations, but one doesn't appear to
exist yet and so it would probably be up to the various projects to
come together and agree on a format.
Note that some users may want the metadata written to the original
file and not a sidecar. Sidecars also introduce the problem of
conflicting metadata -- when fields are present in both the original
and the sidecar, which has priority? (Probably the sidecar, or the
mtime of both files could be compared.)
I do think the bulk of transformations could be described in a
near-universal way. Color transformations may be the most
difficult, since the inputs are reliant on the algorithms, which may
be different from application to application. But things like crop
and straighten could be described in straightforward terms.
So, yes, this is something we've thought a lot about. If there was
some momentum to begin something like a standardization process, I
know we would definitely like to be a part of that conversation.
-- Jim
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Damien Moore
<[email protected]> wrote:
Hi,
I see that Shotwell stores image edits in its database
http://www.yorba.org/shotwell/help/edit-nondestructive.html. Have
you guys
given some thought to how you might also store those instructions
in the
image metadata itself? (You already support this for descriptive
metadata,
of course.)
Full disclosure: I work on my own photo manager, so this isn't
really a
user support question (I do like shotwell, however, and recommend
it to
people who ask for an easy to use photo manager). I mostly ask
because I am
about to embark on implementing my own non-destructive editing
process
storing the instructions (e.g. crop, rotate,
brightness/level/curve/color
adjustments) in the photo metadata or in a sidecar. It would be
great if
there were other programs doing the same thing and we could
coordinate on a
standard set of tags. I haven't seen any standards for doing this,
but I
haven't searched very thoroughly either. One option, of course,
would just
be to register an Xmp namespace for each program and each program
can then
do its own thing and do its best to import image manipulation
instructions
from other programs (the Wild West approach). I recognize that image
manipulation instructions could be interpreted differently on
different
implementations, but that's a limitation of any non-destructive
editing
process.
Keep up the good work on Shotwell!
Thanks,
Damien
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