On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 7:00 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:

> Tom Hacohen пишет:
> > That's very bad, and not intended, it sounds like an e17 bug, try
> > removing ~/.e completely and restart X, it should pop the first time
> > wizard this time, and this time only.
>
> Thanks for the hint.
> It seems like something is seriously broken:
>
> r...@om-gta02 ~ $ rm -rf .e
> rm: cannot stat '.e/e/config/illume-shr/exehist.cfg': Stale NFS file handle
> rm: cannot stat '.e/e/config/illume-shr/e.cfg': Stale NFS file handle
> ...
>
> any ideas how to force removal?
> and what might be the cause for this errors?
>
Someone already answered that.

>
> > I disagree that it's pointless on first boot, as users may like to
> > choose their language of choice and removing this screen when there's
> > only one language means that users may get confused when they'll install
> > from sources who offer only one language.
>
> It looks like I shouldn't choose English - I don't get what you just said
> :-)
>
If the only "choice" we offer is to pick English what could user possibly be
> confused
> about?!
> We could also offer another screen saying something like "Thank you for
> using SHR
> windoz, please press next" - it doesn't make any sense as well :-)
>
Lets say you write a manual for SHR about first time wizard atm it'll say
something like: "Step one, choose your preferred language", if we'll only
show this screen when there are at least two languages, the manual will have
to say: "Step one, choose your preferred language, if you don't see a screen
for choosing the language this probably means you only have one language in
your image, don't worry, it's not an error" or something annoying like this,
this is just BAD behavior.

>
> > I know I'm getting ahead of
> > myself, but I'm talking about a situation when people will wrap shr with
> > different languages/packages preinstalled.
>
> I completely agree with you here... about "getting ahead" part I mean :-)
> There are literally hundreds of things to iron out which looks like way
> more
> important than some nice feature from unpredictably distant future.
>
We didn't write this feature, it was just there (it's part of e17), I think
you'd agree that spending time on removing stuff we'll want in the future is
even a worst time waster than writing stuff we'll only need in the future.

>
> > Anyhow, it's not our choice, it's e17 stuff, I'm just trying to provide
> > rationale. If you want to completely remove the first time wizard, you
> > can just remove /usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/wizard/.
>
> Thank you for clarification - I was unable to find anything about this in
> documentation.
>
Because it's internal design.

>
> > But be advised that this wizard sets a lot of stuff and removing it may
> > (no idea if it really will) break you environment if you'll lack a sane
> > ~/.e/ at some point in the future.
>
> Is there any other way to disable this module other than removing it
> completely?
>
Not that I know of, but you can always back it up, you don't really need to
remove it. :)

>
>
> thanks,
> Max.
>
> _______________________________________________
>

-- 
Tom.
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