At 9:30 PM -0700 4/6/11, Brian Weis wrote:
On Apr 6, 2011, at 5:46 PM, Randy Bush wrote:

 Getting a new application (such as the rtr protocol) specifying
 hmac-md5 mandatory to implement through a Secdir review and then the
 Security ADs just won't happen. The only exception I can think of is
 if there were no possible alternatives, and that's obviously not the
 case here.

 with AO not implemented on any servers, routers not having ssh
 libraries, and this being a server to router protocol, what are the
 alternatives?

 randy

I'm surprised IPsec hasn't been mentioned in this thread ... was it previously discussed and rejected? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe it's common for BGP routers to support IPsec and servers definitely support IPsec. On the router side, one or two IPsec sessions to servers should not be a burden. I'm less sure of the server IPsec scaling properties, but I would expect a LINUX or BSD kernel to have the scaling issues as were discussed earlier in this thread regarding SSH but I'm no expert here.

Brian

A few years ago we were told by vendors that many router implementations of IPsec were available only to traffic passing through a router, not to the
control plane terminating in a router.  Unless that has changed, IPsec is
not a good candidate here.

Steve
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