-----Original Message-----
From: Randy Bush [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 4:35 PM
To: George, Wesley
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [sidr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-sidr-rpki-rtr-13.txt

> I think we're a little light on text in 7 now that we've added so many
> options. I think it would be helpful to provide some rationale as to
> why AO is preferred over the other methods, why they are considered a
> secondary option, etc.
>
> IOW, why *shouldn't* I just keep using TLS or SSH transport? Why is AO
> actually better/eventually mandatory to implement? Multiple members of
> this WG had strong opinions, we should be documenting our
> reasoning. Convince the reader that they should be yelling at YFV for
> AO support...
>
> 7.3 regarding MD5. At the very least, there should be a note that
> TCP-MD5 has been obsoleted by TCP-AO.

this is all covered in the transport area.  do we really want this
routing security doc to get into the transport wars?  where's the win?

Like it or not, it's already in the middle of it - the additions to this 
section are a direct result of feedback that it would not be approved if it 
only used MD5 and a lack of support for AO.
You're welcome to cite sections of other drafts or RFCs from transport that 
cover this, I'm not asking specifically for new text unless none exists that is 
adequate.
The win is completeness for the audience beyond the current participants in 
this WG. I've been party to the discussions because I've been following the 
list, and it still brought up the question in my mind. What happens when people 
who aren't on SIDR and/or are not familiar with the transport area start 
reading this and are looking for some rationale and guidance?

As I've said in earlier messages, you have to remember that the folks 
implementing this in networks are the routing folks. They're not necessarily 
the same folks as the security folks, and so you have to assume slightly less 
background knowledge when it comes to the nuances of the security 
considerations of this implementation.

Wes

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