Dear Mogus:I think, the OrderN method is generally much more fragile than 
diagonalisation,so that you should not expect that it goes by itself from 
scratch.In your case, asterisks indicate that your calculation goes astrayearly 
enough (iter 9).In fact you are not obliged to use OrderN just for the sake of 
it,once your system has more than 100 atoms. In many cases, you'llgo ahead just 
fine with systems of many hundreds of atoms anddiagonalisation, and spare 
yourself many troubles. OrderN is justan option to make calculation faster, if 
possible.I'd suggest the following approach:1. Check that the structure is OK. 
It does not have to be pre-relaxed by VASPor whatever, but you should exclude 
error in the units (Bohr / Ang),wrong translation vectors, atoms sitting on top 
of the others, etc.It seems obvious but in fact a large fraction of problems 
comes from his kind of things. Any visualisation of structure would be 
helpful.2. Make a Diagon run and save the density matrix; later on start 
OrderNfrom it, and not from scratch.3. Also from Diagon calculation, check that 
you have a band gap(in the right place), and write down the Fermi energy for 
the use with OrderN.4. Carefully try OrderN to see if it would work fine and 
faster than Diagon.Be prudent with mixing parameters. Look at how the things 
changefrom one iteration to the other and tune the parameters accordingly(to 
have a good yet stable convergence).
Good luckAndrei
-- prof. Andrei Postnikov -- tel. +33-372749149 -- --
University of Lorraine - Laboratoire de Chimie/Physique - A2MC
ICPM, 1 Bd Arago - BP 95823, F-57078 Metz Cedex 03, France
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----- Mochena, Mogus D. <mogus.moch...@famu.edu> a écrit :

Dear Siesta Users:
>   I am trying to use ORDERN solutionmethod to optimize a quantum dot of CdSe 
> with 90 atoms of Cd and 90 atoms of Se. Actually the system was optimized 
> with VASP and the optimized coordinates were being used to validate SIESTA 
> input parameters prior to
> using SIESTA for larger systems. The diagonal solution method ran fine 
> (single point calculation). When I tried to run the ORDERN solution method, 
> some results (numbers) are getting too large and producing asterisks or a NAN 
> (I think). I don't know how to
> fix the problem. I used the diagonal method results (Md.UseSaveXV) to run the 
> ordern calculation. Please see the output file below. I placed the 
> coordinates at the end of the file.
>
siesta: System type = molecule  

>

> initatomlists: Number of atoms, orbitals, and projectors:    180  2520  2880

>

> siesta: ******************** Simulation parameters 
> ****************************

> siesta:

> siesta: The following are some of the parameters of the simulation.

> siesta: A complete list of the parameters used, including default values,

> siesta: can be found in file out.fdf

> siesta:

> redata: Non-Collinear-spin run           =     F

> redata: SpinPolarized (Up/Down) run      =     F

> redata: Number of spin components        =     1

> redata: Long output                      =     F

> redata: Number of Atomic Species         =        2

> redata: Charge density info will appear in .RHO file

> redata: Write Mulliken Pop.              =     NO

> redata: Mesh Cutoff                      =   100.0000  Ry

> redata: Net charge of the system         =     0.0000 |e|

> redata: Max. number of SCF Iter          =      100

> redata: Performing Pulay mixing using    =     8 iterations

> redata: Mix DM in first SCF step ?       =     F

> redata: Write Pulay info on disk?        =     F

> redata: Discard 1st Pulay DM after  kick =     F

> redata: New DM Mixing Weight             =     0.0500

> redata: New DM Occupancy tolerance       = 0.000000000001

> redata: No kicks to SCF

> redata: DM Mixing Weight for Kicks       =     0.5000

> redata: DM Tolerance for SCF             =     0.000100

> redata: Require Energy convergence for SCF =     F

> redata: DM Energy tolerance for SCF      =     0.000100 eV

> redata: Require Harris convergence for SCF =     F

> redata: DM Harris energy tolerance for SCF =     0.000100 eV

> redata: Using Saved Data (generic)   =     F

> redata: Use continuation files for DM    =     F

> redata: Neglect nonoverlap interactions  =     F

> redata: Method of Calculation            =     Order-N

> redata: Fix the spin of the system       =     F

> redata: Maximum number of iterations     =     1000

> redata: Relative tolerance               =     0.10D-07

> redata: Eta (Fermi level parameter)      =     0.0000  Ry

> redata: Radius of LWFs                   =     9.5000  Bohr

> redata: Use continuation files for LWF   =     F

> redata: Method to build LWFs             =     kim          

> redata: Dynamics option                  =     CG coord. optimization

> redata: Variable cell                    =     F

> redata: Use continuation files for CG    =     F

> redata: Max atomic displ per move        =     0.2000  Bohr

> redata: Maximum number of CG moves       =        0

> redata: Force tolerance                  =     0.0004  Ry/Bohr

> redata: 
> ***********************************************************************

> Total number of electrons:  1620.000000

> Total ionic charge:  1620.000000

>

> * ProcessorY, Blocksize:    4  24

>

>  Kpoints in:            1 . Kpoints trimmed:            1

>

> siesta: k-grid: Number of k-points =     1

> siesta: k-grid: Cutoff (effective) =    15.000 Ang

> siesta: k-grid: Supercell and displacements

> siesta: k-grid:    1   0   0      0.000

> siesta: k-grid:    0   1   0      0.000

> siesta: k-grid:    0   0   1      0.000

>

> * Maximum dynamic memory allocated =     2 MB

>

> siesta:                 ==============================

>                             Begin CG move =      0

>                         ==============================

>

> outcell: Unit cell vectors (Ang):

>        30.000000    0.000000    0.000000

>         0.000000   30.000000    0.000000

>         0.000000    0.000000   33.000000

>

> outcell: Cell vector modules (Ang)   :   30.000000   30.000000   33.000000

> outcell: Cell angles (23,13,12) (deg):     90.0000     90.0000     90.0000

> outcell: Cell volume (Ang**3)        :  29700.0000

> New_DM. Step:     1

> Initializing Density Matrix...

>

> InitMesh: MESH =   192 x   192 x   200 =     7372800

> InitMesh: Mesh cutoff (required, used) =   100.000   101.516 Ry

>

> * Maximum dynamic memory allocated =    96 MB

>

> ordern: enum =   1620.0000

>

> ordern: ioptlwf =  1

> cgwf: iter =    1      grad =      -13309.295579      Eb(Ry) =     -35.920311

> cgwf: iter =    2      grad =        -875.312479      Eb(Ry) =    -224.052102

> cgwf: iter =    3      grad =        -804.839212      Eb(Ry) =    -297.009411

> cgwf: iter =    4      grad =        -787.933037      Eb(Ry) =    -335.679396

> cgwf: iter =    5      grad =        -548.825162      Eb(Ry) =    -370.115358

> cgwf: iter =    6      grad =        -401.459453      Eb(Ry) =    -402.345543

> cgwf: iter =    7      grad =        -447.331404      Eb(Ry) =    -426.036489

> cgwf: iter =    8      grad =      -10719.766928      Eb(Ry) =    -480.011082

> cgwf: iter =    9      grad =    -7474886.632370      Eb(Ry) =     973.896833

> cgwf: iter =   10      grad =    -9111218.434560      Eb(Ry) =     981.923886

> cgwf: iter =   11      grad =        -662.512503      Eb(Ry) =    -433.223962

> cgwf: iter =   12      grad =       -1152.025619      Eb(Ry) =    -436.301982

> cgwf: iter =   13      grad = ******************      Eb(Ry) =  336795.715075

>

> cgwf:  CG tolerance reached

>

> denmat: qtot (before DM normalization) = ************

> ordern: qtot (after  DM normalization) =    1620.0000

>

> siesta: Program's energy decomposition (eV):

> siesta: Ebs     =      -114.121292

> siesta: Eions   =    157023.797227

> siesta: Ena     =      6823.072205

> siesta: Ekin    =     95712.331784

> siesta: Enl     =    -55252.000243

> siesta: DEna    =        -0.000105

> siesta: DUscf   =         0.000000

> siesta: DUext   =         0.000000

> siesta: Exc     =    -30948.368391

> siesta: eta*DQ  =         0.000000

> siesta: Emadel  =         0.000000

> siesta: Emeta   =         0.000000

> siesta: Emolmec =         0.000000

> siesta: Ekinion =         0.000000

> siesta: Eharris =   -126902.547155

> siesta: Etot    =   -140688.761978

> siesta: FreeEng =   -140688.761978

>

> siesta: iscf =    1

> Eharris(eV) =    -126902.5472  E_KS(eV) =    -140688.7620  dDmax = *******

>

> timer: Routine,Calls,Time,% = IterSCF        1    1029.922  94.40

> elaps: Routine,Calls,Wall,% = IterSCF        1      32.581  94.04

>

> ordern: enum =   1620.0000

> cgwf: iter =    1      grad = ******************      Eb(Ry) = **************

> cgwf: iter =    2      grad = ******************      Eb(Ry) = **************

> cgwf: iter =    3      grad =                NaN      Eb(Ry) = **************

> cgwf: iter =    4      grad =                NaN      Eb(Ry) =            NaN

> cgwf: iter =    5      grad =                NaN      Eb(Ry) =            NaN

> cgwf: iter =    6      grad =                NaN      Eb(Ry) =            NaN

> cgwf: iter =    7      grad =                NaN      Eb(Ry) =            NaN

> cgwf: iter =    8      grad =                NaN      Eb(Ry) =            NaN
>

>
>

>
>

>
>
>coor:   Atomic-coordinates input format  =     Cartesian coordinates

> coor:                                          (in Angstroms)

>

> ioxv: Reading coordinates and velocities from file

> ! Info in XV file prevails over previous structure input

>

> siesta: Atomic coordinates (Bohr) and species

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